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Mis sold property where do I stand?

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  • csgohan4
    csgohan4 Posts: 10,600 Forumite
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    I live in a new built house,

    How dare the commoners live near me.
    "It is prudent when shopping for something important, not to limit yourself to Pound land/Estate Agents"

    G_M/ Bowlhead99 RIP
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    Despite the amount of media coverage, it still comes as a shock to some that they cannot easily guarantee a place in that favoured rank of houses on the edge of a town or village. It might take 5 months, 5 years or 50 years, but you can bet those damned planners will allow someone else to build on those fields and block that treasured view.

    But was the view paid for?

    Yesterday, I walked past such a rank of houses, all built in a short period in the late 60s - early 70s. Virtually all trumpeted their special status in their names: Greenfields, Green Pastures, Green View etc, etc. They had real a green thing going, baby! (Remember the era ;))

    However, behind them, diggers were at work and men were pouring concrete into newly dug foundations for what will be an estate of 95 houses. Oh dear!

    Just down the same road are some more houses backing onto another green space and view. When I came to live here, it surprised me to see the high prices these properties commanded when they didn't look that special, and that part of the road is busier too.

    Now I know why. That green space has covenants on it which are so watertight it's unlikely ever to be built upon. It's land which Joe Public has access to, so not that private, but it's there for the forseeable future, and so is the spectacular view

    The answer is clear: you either own the view, you pay a premium for a protected view, or you cross your fingers and hope you are lucky, like those 'Green' folks were....until now!
  • lush_walrus
    lush_walrus Posts: 1,975 Forumite
    Your problem is going to be a decrease in value and difficulty selling while there is building work going on at the end of the road.

    The problem with HA properties next to you isn't what others think on here, it is the fact that developers put them on the site in the least attractive lowest value part of it. So if it is next to you that is how the neighbouring developer views your road.

    They may not have known to tell you, for future reference you can check what is permitted / planning applications are logged with the council easily. Go online to the local authority website planning and search in there your road or a road near and keep searching.
  • Nikstar07
    Nikstar07 Posts: 19 Forumite
    Thank you for all of your responses, to try and answer all of your questions.

    Yes we were told verbally by Persimmon sales person and completely understand that their phrasing could have meant WE will not be building anymore houses here but from all the plans that we looked at it was very clear that our street was a cul-de-sac - a street with one entrance and houses at the other end.

    Our issues are:
    1. The site primary entrance and soon to be main entrance for all 165 houses will now being through our road which we were NEVER told about and no searches indicated this. It makes NO sense at all as there is a main road running along the back of this new development and then a dual carriage way the other side so why on earth would you build through an estate that has only been finished for 6 months and make it in to a build site again for another 3-5 years!
    2. The main entrance to our estate will not not be tarmacked until this new site has been finished which will be 3-5 years or so?? Is that fair?
    3. Taylor wimpy already have 2 other build sites either side of the main road (which do not effect us really) and this is what showed up on the searches, if this new site was included that is a bit naughty as it was certainly NOT clear and in fact just started the over all number of houses as being 400 and something and their whole site is called the same thing despite it being in different locations.

    Any thoughts on where we stand?
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Have you actually looked to see what planning applications exist, when they went in, and what stages they are at?
  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    Nikstar07 wrote: »
    Assuming planning has been granted...
    Yes we were told verbally by Persimmon sales person and completely understand that their phrasing could have meant WE will not be building anymore houses here but from all the plans that we looked at it was very clear that our street was a cul-de-sac - a street with one entrance and houses at the other end.
    That doesn't mean it can't change...
    Our issues are:
    1. The site primary entrance and soon to be main entrance for all 165 houses will now being through our road which we were NEVER told about and no searches indicated this. It makes NO sense at all as there is a main road running along the back of this new development and then a dual carriage way the other side so why on earth would you build through an estate that has only been finished for 6 months and make it in to a build site again for another 3-5 years! This will have to have been agreed with highways so there must be a reason...
    2. The main entrance to our estate will not not be tarmacked until this new site has been finished which will be 3-5 years or so?? Is that fair? Fair or not i can't see there being much you can do....
    3. Taylor wimpy already have 2 other build sites either side of the main road (which do not effect us really) and this is what showed up on the searches, if this new site was included that is a bit naughty as it was certainly NOT clear and in fact just started the over all number of houses as being 400 and something and their whole site is called the same thing despite it being in different locations. Builders tend to work in phases.It seems pretty clear that at the time of the searches this section wasn't proposed.

    Any thoughts on where we stand?

    I really can't see you having any redress. Or who it would come from.
  • davidmcn
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    Nikstar07 wrote: »
    The main entrance to our estate will not not be tarmacked until this new site has been finished which will be 3-5 years or so?? Is that fair?

    Makes sense if it's going to be used by construction traffic.
  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    davidmcn wrote: »
    Makes sense if it's going to be used by construction traffic.

    Chances are the base course will be laid (if it isn't already) just not the wearing course.As you indicate.
  • Davesnave
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    edited 24 March 2016 at 12:04PM
    Nikstar07 wrote: »

    ....from all the plans that we looked at it was very clear that our street was a cul-de-sac - a street with one entrance and houses at the other end.
    Plans do change, and even sales staff may not be aware that these alterations are afoot.

    Staff at Charles Church showed me plans which were subsequently changed, but there was no intention to deceive and nothing for them to gain by deception.

    The notice advertising the change of plan was publicly posted, albeit in a different street from mine and included in on-line planning data.

    As above, do you know when the change of plan was made public?
  • danslenoir
    danslenoir Posts: 220 Forumite
    Nikstar07 wrote: »
    Any thoughts on where we stand?

    I'm sure the issues you identified are serious to you, but really, no one owes you any redress for any of them, and if planning permission has been granted, there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

    Does the letter from Taylor Wimpey state they are going to be building these new houses (and planning permission granted), or they are proposing to build these new houses (subject to planning permission)?

    If planning permission has not yet been granted, it may still be out for consultation in which case you can make your feelings known to the council. Whether this has any major impact on the outcome is another matter...
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