Mis sold property where do I stand?

marksoton

Nikstar07 wrote: »

Of all the fields surrounding this area why do they choose to just build on top of eachother

Hate to break it to you but who's to say those other fields won't be developed at some point....

Nikstar07

AdrianC wrote: »

Just as well, since you've just bought a house on one.

But one thing is unclear - the consultation boards on TW's website says that the access is proposed to be via Vesta Grove - but that doesn't seem to be a Persimmon development - the only Persimmon development seems to be Persimmon Court on Theedway.

Theedway, Vesta Grove and all of the streets to the north of Theedway are ALL Persimmon Homes. Taylor Wimpy are currently building on the south side of Theedway and are nearly finished here.

AdrianC

Nikstar07 wrote: »

Theedway, Vesta Grove and all of the streets to the north of Theedway are ALL Persimmon Homes. Taylor Wimpy are currently building on the south side of Theedway and are nearly finished here.

Ah, OK.

I wonder if the entirety of the development is basically TW, with some bits of it sub-parcelled to P or other developers.

Can you post a recent pic of the end of the Vesta Grove road, please?

Nikstar07

This is all very difficult as I cannot post images BUT the map above is old and inaccurate. You cannot simply drive off the main road and UP to Vesta Grove, the lorries and new residence only way in to this estate will be to turn in to Theedway and come along there. An extra 300 cars of new residents and trucks and lorries only coming in through one entrance is just ridiculous.

If you look at Taylor Wimpy Roman Gate plans you will see that the road that is meant to go up to Vesta Grove is now small windy redidential roads so is not an option for entrance.

If you look at Persimmon Homes Leighton Buzzard plan you can see that Vesta Grove was not marked as a through road and also that Theedway is the only entrance in and out of the site for cars and building vehicles

marksoton

Nikstar07 wrote: »

Theedway, Vesta Grove and all of the streets to the north of Theedway are ALL Persimmon Homes. Taylor Wimpy are currently building on the south side of Theedway and are nearly finished here.

Large house building firms often work in consortium's.

The site we're about to start providing water infrastructure for are exactly that.

LittleMax

So the detailed plans for OP's estate are CB/13/01356/RM

You can very clearly see for the layout plan that Vesta Grove was built to go through to the new development. You can see that this is not a permanent cul-de-sac with houses across the end, as OP has led us to believe. OP you state they will be demolishing part of the Persimmon build to enable this road to go through - please explain what will require demolishing.

Edit - OP if you look at the cul-de-sacs to the east and west of Vesta Grove you can see that these were planned as cul-de-sacs, they are narrower than Vesta Grove and the design with buildings and parking spaces across the end do not allow for the road to be extended.

LittleMax

Nikstar07 wrote: »

If you look at Taylor Wimpy Roman Gate plans you will see that the road that is meant to go up to Vesta Grove is now small windy redidential roads so is not an option for entrance.

If you look at Persimmon Homes Leighton Buzzard plan you can see that Vesta Grove was not marked as a through road and also that Theedway is the only entrance in and out of the site for cars and building vehicles

Modern town planning uses windy roads as a method of traffic calming along main roads through estates, it does not necessarily mean they are not suitable for the planned volume of traffic.

It may well be that construction traffic uses a temporary route into the site off Chartmoor Road. This is something you could feed into the consultation.

pollyanna24

Davesnave wrote: »

Despite the amount of media coverage, it still comes as a shock to some that they cannot easily guarantee a place in that favoured rank of houses on the edge of a town or village. It might take 5 months, 5 years or 50 years, but you can bet those damned planners will allow someone else to build on those fields and block that treasured view.

But was the view paid for?

Yesterday, I walked past such a rank of houses, all built in a short period in the late 60s - early 70s. Virtually all trumpeted their special status in their names: Greenfields, Green Pastures, Green View etc, etc. They had real a green thing going, baby! (Remember the era )

However, behind them, diggers were at work and men were pouring concrete into newly dug foundations for what will be an estate of 95 houses. Oh dear!

Just down the same road are some more houses backing onto another green space and view. When I came to live here, it surprised me to see the high prices these properties commanded when they didn't look that special, and that part of the road is busier too.

Now I know why. That green space has covenants on it which are so watertight it's unlikely ever to be built upon. It's land which Joe Public has access to, so not that private, but it's there for the forseeable future, and so is the spectacular view

The answer is clear: you either own the view, you pay a premium for a protected view, or you cross your fingers and hope you are lucky, like those 'Green' folks were....until now!

Just out of interest, how do we find out about covenants. I live opposite a big playing field. Been there for years, but I also live just outside London (Herts so everywhere is green belt). How can I find out if this may be affected in the future?

Dan-Dan

OP , it is a very small world..........they wont ever create access from the dual carriageway and i think you must know that because if the did they would have created access roads for the rest of the new build estates that line the bypass that have been in progress for 15 years , the cost would be prohibitive, and knowing the area as i do, would create traffic issues that highways presumably didnt fancy...

As for Chartmoor road , that is a well established rat run through the industrial estate that is very busy , and also acts as a bus route for school/commuter traffic (foot traffic of school children is also high) so creating an access for heavy site traffic anywhere along there is a no go i would have thought

And the reason its such a small world? My Mum is hoping to get allocated one of the HA 1 bed flats that you refer to

moneyistooshorttomention

marliepanda wrote: »

Totally irrelevant to the thread but my aunt lived in a completely enclosed cul de sac, with a small horse field behind her house on a small farm

Her neighbours sold half their garden to a developer to create a through road who then built houses at the back of her house.

I'm sure this didn't happen here with them being so new, but a cul de sac can change quite dramatically!

I can think of two cul-de-sacs near me.

Well - one of them was (for many years) but the intention/hope was always there by builders to put more houses in leading on from a handy gap in the cul-de-sac later. They did.

I can see where some of these new houses have been built and its a cul-de-sac - but I've been following whats what enough to know builders already have their eye on a field the other side of a gap in the cul-de-sac and I'm laying odds that bit of road won't be a cul-de-sac for very long....

That does seem to be the way builders operate.

There is some variation - according to how densely populated the area of country one is in - on that theme.

I've come from a densely populated area of the country and the thought didn't cross my mind that builders might have their eye on buying a cheap bungalow to the side of a well-established through road. Until they did so - and then bought a few others and bingo = extra housing somewhere I would never have anticipated.