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Mis sold property where do I stand?

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  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    antrobus wrote: »
    I can.:)

    It's this one - https://www.taylorwimpey.co.uk/proposed-developments/england/bedfordshire/leighton-buzzard/land-off-grovebury-road

    It looks like a former brickyard surrounded by industrial estates on three sides. I'd say it was the kind of site that was a rip-roaring certainty to be developed some time real soon, and that access was always going to be from the south if the development was residential.

    That would seem to be the obvious route, wouldn't it? I'm presuming the OP's house is in one of the roads shown as lines in fields, developed since the pic was taken.
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  • LittleMax
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    antrobus wrote: »
    I can.:)

    It's this one - https://www.taylorwimpey.co.uk/proposed-developments/england/bedfordshire/leighton-buzzard/land-off-grovebury-road

    It looks like a former brickyard surrounded by industrial estates on three sides. I'd say it was the kind of site that was a rip-roaring certainty to be developed some time real soon, and that access was always going to be from the south if the development was residential.

    I also think from the plan on page 5 of the consultation document you can see that the road through the Persimmon development would always join with the proposed development. To be fair though developers do usually mark proposed future developments on their plans, so it is a tad unfair if they did not do this. That said if I had been looking at that site, there were enough warning signs there to have fully checked it out before buying.
  • Marvel1
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    With regards to the development, you house and the estate was built on well free land, so there is another free land and being used exactly the same.
  • Nikstar07
    Nikstar07 Posts: 19 Forumite
    This map is years old and what it does not show is all of the new houses in the green areas around Theedway and Vesta Grove. It is all very hard to explain but Vesta Grove is not a wide main road it is a very small residential (currently no through) road. On car parked on the road results in the bin men not even being able to get through so how are they going to get lorries etc down there.

    From this map that is years out of date it does seem the obvious route, but if you see how built up this area is not and all the changes that have been made it 100% is not
  • AdrianC
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    Nikstar07 wrote: »
    On car parked on the road results in the bin men not even being able to get through so how are they going to get lorries etc down there.

    The building site wagons probably won't be a lot different in size to a bin wagon - OR A FIRE ENGINE - so, assuming inconsiderate and illegal parking isn't causing sufficient obstruction to prevent them getting through, there's unlikely to be a problem.

    If it is, then I suspect the police will take an interest in the parking problems.
  • Nikstar07
    Nikstar07 Posts: 19 Forumite
    No.

    We are concerned as this information was not clearly available until recently (no maps, only that they plan to build 400 something houses). All of the talks of other developments were masked but the fact that Taylor Wimpy have 2 other new build sites either side of Billington Road in Leighton Buzzard (a stones throw a way from us anyway) and are building right up to Grovebury road which insinuates that this is what our searches revealed. Not that they would choose a 3rd site within a 1/4 of a mile and demolish part of the Persimmon site to gain access to this new site.

    I am not against new build estates but feel that we may have been mis sold our house as we were told that building would all be finished by early 2016, roads tarmacked and we would no longer be living on a building site. However we have now discovered that they are knocking through our finished estate to build behind us. Our issue is where the access road is NOT they the government are building new homes.
  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    Nikstar07 wrote: »

    I am not against new build estates but feel that we may have been mis sold our house as we were told that building would all be finished by early 2016, roads tarmacked and we would no longer be living on a building site. However we have now discovered that they are knocking through our finished estate to build behind us. Our issue is where the access road is NOT they the government are building new homes.

    Then i suggest you saddle up and get ready for battle.

    Personally i reckon you've got zero chance of making mis-selling stick.

    Can you affect the access road plans? Who knows...
  • AdrianC
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    Nikstar07 wrote: »
    I am not against new build estates

    Just as well, since you've just bought a house on one.
    but feel that we may have been mis sold our house as we were told that building would all be finished by early 2016, roads tarmacked and we would no longer be living on a building site. However we have now discovered that they are knocking through our finished estate

    Well, hold on minute... Either you're miffed because the estate isn't finished, or they're "knocking through" a finished estate...
    Our issue is where the access road is NOT they the government are building new homes.

    The government aren't building new homes. Taylor Wimpy - a private company, just like Persimmon, but separate to Persimmon - will be applying for permission to build new homes on a site for which they were given outline permission four years before you bought your house.

    But one thing is unclear - the consultation boards on TW's website says that the access is proposed to be via Vesta Grove - but that doesn't seem to be a Persimmon development - the only Persimmon development seems to be Persimmon Court on Theedway.
  • Nikstar07
    Nikstar07 Posts: 19 Forumite
    As a first time buyer I just have a lot of questions and lack experience in this area so thank you to all of you who have given helpful answers to my questions and queries.

    I think I now understand that my house was not necessarily mis sold as they already planned to build on that field but there are some blurred lines as to how readily available this information was regarding access roads and plans to turn a quiet cul-de-sac into a major through road for another large estate.

    If the entrance to this site was not directly through my estate this new build plan would not effect me at all. But it is and therefore will cause a huge amount of traffic trying to exit this already full estate.

    Of all the fields surrounding this area why do they choose to just build on top of eachother
  • AdrianC
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    Nikstar07 wrote: »
    Of all the fields surrounding this area why do they choose to just build on top of eachother

    Because it isn't a "field" that's being built on, but a derelict and redundant industrial site.

    It is massively better to build on brownfield land, like that, than on greenfield agricultural land.
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