Is this normal or a red flag?

ripplyuk

In my teens, I would lie in until 1.30pm regularly, and could have slept longer if I was allowed to. I think it must be a biological thing, as I totally grew out of it when I was in my early twenties. I just didn't need so much sleep then, and would wake up earlier naturally. I always feel sorry for teenagers when people call them lazy as I remember how much I needed that sleep. Maybe it's something to do with growing?

SandC

I wasn't allowed to sleep in too late as a teen. 11am my stepmum would come up shouting morning too cheerfully and throwing the curtains open. I also had to respond in a semi sociable manner (ie. a grunt was not good enough). She did used to bring a cuppa up though. Left to my own devices i would have stayed in my pit.

At 16 on a Saturday I had to do my chores which was cleaning the upstairs, hoovering, dusting etc. and there was no getting out of this once I'd turned 18 and going out til stupid o'clock drinking. Hangover or not, it was still get up and get on with it.

Currently regressing and often don't get up until 3pm on a Sunday (almost 5pm best time) and if I don't do that I will get a nap in at some point anyway.

Because I can.

duchy

Peter333 wrote: »

I would, but I'm not an utterly lazy slovenly slob. :cool:

Anyway, seeing people's histrionic reactions to my 'outraged' posts is really quite entertaining. :T :rotfl:

And let's face it, the OP thinks it's an issue, or they wouldn't have posted about it, WOULD THEY?!

Well we don't know who the OP is in relation to the child . They could be a neighbour, grandparent or whatever - so we have no idea how relevant their opinion is. Whilst I don't agree with Mum providing room service -it's a parent's place to approve or disapprove -not anyone else's....so what the OP thinks may not even be relevant anyway. (If they are the other parent I'm wondering why they are discussing it with a forum of strangers rather than the Mother -seems to indicate it's a non parent sticking their nose in)

I'm also wondering what having a PJ day is supposed to be a "red flag" to .

pigpen

duchy wrote: »

I'm also wondering what having a PJ day is supposed to be a "red flag" to .

I wondered that too.. my agoraphobic, severely depressed 17 y/o has lots of PJ days though.. and some days stays in bed ALL day..

megaginge

No way I'd be taking meals to them but I used to be up gaming till 0500; up early afternoon; quite regularly - between 13 and 19/20 ...

normal I'd say

ravilious_fan

AnnieO1234 wrote: »

Okay so it's the Easter holidays, would you say it was normal for an otherwise healthy 13 year old to still be in bed at 3:30pm? They've not got up for food (mom dragged it to them) and they're sat in their pjs playing games?

Xxx

All the while they've got parents who think it's perfectly ok to slob about in PJs and even turn up at school in their pyjamas :eek:, what hope have the kids got

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12123029/Parents-asked-to-stop-wearing-pyjamas-on-the-school-run.html

I don't understand this British thing about not getting washed and dressed, to be honest. You don't get it much in other countries.

System

Sounds to me like your son/daughter is in love

I remember the days of a school crush and holidays were the worst! I had a crush on this girl and we would text eachother til like 2am but the only time we would see eachother was at school so when it was a holiday i would spend my days alone in my room missing her and wanting the holiday to end so i could go back to school just to be with her :rotfl:

TBagpuss

Peter333 wrote: »

No it's not normal for a 13 year old to stay in bed til 3.30pm. Not any 13 year old I know - or have ever known anyway. Not unless they are ill!

What a terrible example people are setting to their teens... 'Oh it's OK to lie in bed til 3.30pm!' FGS what's up with parents these days?! Why are they not up and out and about, playing, shopping, crafting, playing sports, creating things, helping mum around the house, doing something constructive; ANYTHING.

What a slippery slope that is. Teaching a young teen to be so utterly lazy and slovenly. Utterly disgraceful.

Nonsense.

Differnt people also have diferent natuarl rhythms and cycles. Not eveyone is geared to early mornings and early nights. That doesn't make those who function better on a different daily rhythm lazy or slovenly, although it may make them much more tired if they normally have to adapt to a pattern which they are not naturally suited to.

Teenagers need more sleep than adults and they do have a differnt pattern - Dr Russell Foster, professor of Circadian Neuroscience has suggested that because of the different slep patterns for teenagers, waking a teenager at 7 a. m. is equivalent to waking an oder adult at 5.a.m. - regardless of what time they go to bed, they are on a different pattern to older people. They also need around 9 hours sleep, but during school terms in particualr, most get closer to 5-6 hours.

The changes in the amount of sleep neded kick in when puberty begins and continue until the age of about 20-21, after which they gradually return to pre-ouberty levels, althouhg it takes until you are in your mid-fifties to go back to pre-pubesent levels.

this is why scientists have started to recommend a later start for secondary schools.

3.30 is quite late but it's entirely likely that the teenager in question has been effectively sleep deprived all term.

besides which, why on earth shouldn't a teenager relax and enjoy their break the way they want to?

If they are sleping until 3.30p.m. every day and are not staying up very late, then it might be a cause for concern, and I don't think it is reasonable for them to expect meals to be brought to them, but other than that, I would not be overly concerned.

Peter333

ravilious_fan wrote: »

All the while they've got parents who think it's perfectly ok to slob about in PJs and even turn up at school in their pyjamas :eek:, what hope have the kids got

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/12123029/Parents-asked-to-stop-wearing-pyjamas-on-the-school-run.html

I don't understand this British thing about not getting washed and dressed, to be honest. You don't get it much in other countries.

EXACTLY! Speaks volumes about the lazy slovenly attitudes in this country (from some!) I have travelled extensively over the world, and especially over Asia, the Americas, and Europe, and the British are by far, the laziest, most slovenly of all the nations I have spent time in.

As you say, these people that endorse their slovenly teens lazing in bed til 3.30pm are probably the same type that go to the shops in their pyjamas.

TBagpuss wrote: »

Nonsense.

Differnt people also have diferent natuarl rhythms and cycles. Not eveyone is geared to early mornings and early nights. That doesn't make those who function better on a different daily rhythm lazy or slovenly, although it may make them much more tired if they normally have to adapt to a pattern which they are not naturally suited to.

Teenagers need more sleep than adults and they do have a differnt pattern - Dr Russell Foster, professor of Circadian Neuroscience has suggested that because of the different slep patterns for teenagers, waking a teenager at 7 a. m. is equivalent to waking an oder adult at 5.a.m. - regardless of what time they go to bed, they are on a different pattern to older people. They also need around 9 hours sleep, but during school terms in particualr, most get closer to 5-6 hours.

The changes in the amount of sleep neded kick in when puberty begins and continue until the age of about 20-21, after which they gradually return to pre-ouberty levels, althouhg it takes until you are in your mid-fifties to go back to pre-pubesent levels.

this is why scientists have started to recommend a later start for secondary schools.

3.30 is quite late but it's entirely likely that the teenager in question has been effectively sleep deprived all term.

besides which, why on earth shouldn't a teenager relax and enjoy their break the way they want to?

If they are sleping until 3.30p.m. every day and are not staying up very late, then it might be a cause for concern, and I don't think it is reasonable for them to expect meals to be brought to them, but other than that, I would not be overly concerned.

Utter guff.

Just because waking a child/teen at 7am is equivalent to waking an 25+ adult at 5am, doesn't mean they need to sleep in til 3.30am FGS.

The disturbing thing is the amount of people on here that think it's OK. :eek:

These people must have too much time on their hands.

Frankly, myself, and my wife, and my 3 children (now 20-30 y.o.) have better things to do with our lives than waste them in bed.

I despair for humanity, I really do. It's really not a very good example to set to children,

**By the way, TBagpuss, did you actually READ your post before you clicked 'SUBMIT?!' I am not one to point out people's spelling and grammar, as I normally think it's a bit rude, but there are a lot of typos in your post. Did you just wake up or something? :rotfl:

**tongue buried firmly in cheek, so don't have a cow people!**

Lunar_Eclipse

I don't think this is a 'red flag' for anything (tiredness?) but I do think 13 is a bit young for this behaviour, which is more typical of older teens, probably due to staying up later at night. Also, they have presumably stayed in their pjs because they could, i.e. you weren't going out anywhere today?

My kids haven't broken up for Easter yet, but enjoy having a couple of lazy days where they watch copious amounts of TV and catch up on everything online. They need the downtime to recharge, but beyond that, I'm not a huge fan of lazing around all day, as tempting and lovely as it is. And I encourage some fresh air every day; an evening family walk before or after dinner if they've done nothing.

At 13, I took off on my bike to meet friends with a packed lunch and would be gone for most of the day. My 14 year old is similar, and much more active than my 16 year old. I need to prise her phone from her hands!

Do you or they have plans for the break? Make some?