The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shakethedisease

Thrugelmir wrote: »

See the machine is running at maximum RPM spin to disguise the disappointment. Certainly not the outcome that was hoped for with the GE a matter of weeks away. Numbness setting in perhaps. In reaction to the endless games that are being played. .

Disappointment at what ? 431 seats ? I'm devastated. What outcome do you think I was hoping for btw ?

sss555s

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Course it is.
Not.
I bet you're not at all bothered about the GE in June either, are you?

What odds on the SNP losing 12 at least, from results like this?
And more if they don't buck up their p-poor campaigning.

Excuses, if's and but's :rotfl: You don't seem all that happy with the result and maybe you are realising that SNP is still well in control in Scotland.
Even SNP supporters didn't think they would get more seats

Shakethedisease

wotsthat wrote: »

If the SNP was winning the argument about a second referendum being required then they would've had those seats from Labour instead of the Tories doing it.

Making out the SNP only campaigned on local issues whilst everyone else only campaigned on independence is a diversion.

I still think the SNP peak was the last general election.

The SNP took most Labour voters during and immediately after the indy ref. That was the SNP surge and taking Labour seats in 2015. Things are realigning now into Union/Independence. It's where those Labour voters still left now go during an independence campaign that's the question over the next year or two.

The SNP certainly did campaign on local issues. As did the Greens. Labour and the Tories campaigned on 'no to a 2nd ref' basis to the exclusion of everything else. However, Labour probably gifted the Tories more votes by doing so since the Tories are by far the more credible party on a 'no ref' ticket. This is why Labour lost so many seats to the Tories.

TrickyTree83

sss555s wrote: »

Excuses, if's and but's :rotfl: You don't seem all that happy with the result and maybe you are realising that SNP is still well in control in Scotland.
Even SNP supporters didn't think they would get more seats

Dear lord.

Clearly the edict from on high (SNP PR) is to ignore what actually took place and focus on the increase in numbers due to the boundary changes. Victory!

Hahaha.

Yet when you compare to 2012 they're down. The proportions are not increasing as we are told they should as Indy is "winning the argument because - nasty Tories". There is no momentum.

Peak Indy and peak SNP have come and gone. Welcome to the future.

None of this is personal to me. Just enjoy calling out B.S. It's ridiculously easy on this thread.

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Disappointment at what ? 431 seats ? I'm devastated. What outcome do you think I was hoping for btw ?

Increase in the number of councillors at the expense of Labour. After all it would be the natural home of the disillusioned "working" class. After all this is for Local Councils and one would hope that the current encumbrant's are doing a cracking job. Tackling issues at ground level. Labour maybe in meltdown but not the way some would have expected it to play out. Corbyn isn't going to be at the helm forever. At this rate a matter of weeks. Given his complete absence today.

veryintrigued

Will Ms Sturgeon ever utter a sentence that doesn't include the 'Tories' or 'Westminster' words.

Are those her best cards she has to play? Surely at some point she has to focus on her owned perceived positives?

sss555s

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Dear lord.

Clearly the edict from on high (SNP PR) is to ignore what actually took place and focus on the increase in numbers due to the boundary changes. Victory!

Hahaha.

Yet when you compare to 2012 they're down. The proportions are not increasing as we are told they should as Indy is "winning the argument because - nasty Tories". There is no momentum.

Peak Indy and peak SNP have come and gone. Welcome to the future.

None of this is personal to me. Just enjoy calling out B.S. It's ridiculously easy on this thread.

I'm calling out your BS...

2012 SNP were 30 seats ahead of second place

2017 SNP are 155 seats ahead of second place _party_

That is a crushing defeat by anyone's standards!

Peak Indy and peak SNP have come and gone. Welcome to the future.

:rotfl: Don't let the facts get in the way of your delusions!

There were 21 extra seats and SNP got 6 of them while also maintaining their 2012 numbers. Hardly "on the slide" is it?

Thrugelmir

sss555s wrote: »

I'm calling out your BS...

2012 SNP were 30 seats ahead of second place

2017 SNP are 155 seats ahead of second place _party_

That is a crushing defeat by anyone's standards!

"People often believe arrogance is excessive confidence, but it's really a lack of confidence.".

Shaka_Zulu

Shakethedisease wrote: »

What exactly IS this final nail supposed to be ? I'm lost with what you're trying to say to be honest.

What I am saying is when push comes to shove your share of the popular vote in the GE will be under 40% and as such your dream of independence is withering on the vine.

It is all over.

TrickyTree83

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

What I am saying is when push comes to shove your share of the popular vote in the GE will be under 40% and as such your dream of independence is withering on the vine.

It is all over.

They won't believe it until they see it.

Wait for the vote share statistics on June 9th, then see how smug they all are after that.