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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • elantan
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    May is simply representing everyone. Irrespective of their view. After all she was herself personally a remainer. However manages to put personal views aside. May is right to cause a period of reflection. As there's much to debate and for people to comprehend. No one knows what the future will hold. Take one day at a time.

    Is she really representing everyone? I don't feel like she represents me at all ... she speaks for me ... but no I don't think she represents me
  • elantan
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    Isn't the usual method to stick it in the party manifesto?

    That's what Cameron did after all.

    And Sturgeon ... something about if there's a change in circumstances or something
  • elantan
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    kelpie35 wrote: »
    The polls all got it wrong the last time the scottish referendum was held and i am sure they will continue to get it wrong.

    I do not wish to vote again and I will not be voting SNP as long as I live.

    The are a bunch of liars and not interested in the scottish people. They only like to blow their own trumpet.

    Change that to tory or labour and it sounds the same.really
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    Here's some more....

    SNP
    manifesto
    2016
    election
    indyref2
    material
    change
    like
    Brexit

    Yes because they speak to the point you were making about what Scots voted for don't they?

    Instead you just sidestep that.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    what Scots voted for
    .

    What Scots voted for was an SNP led government that specifically included the ability to call a second indyref in their manifesto if there was a material change - and then specifically listed Brexit as an example of material change.

    Couldn't have been any clearer.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • .string.
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    What Scots voted for was an SNP led government that specifically included the ability to call a second indyref in their manifesto if there was a material change - and then specifically listed Brexit as an example of material change.

    Couldn't have been any clearer.


    Now is not the time
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • .string.
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    .string. wrote: »
    [quote=Originally_Posted_by_beecher2]Doesn't sound like you'd vote for them anyway? To be fair, Scottish Greens are a completely separate party to the party in England and Wales.
    No I have never for them​ . ... Nominally a different party perhaps, but they cosied up with each other. If my memory serves me correctly their previous leader also cosied up to Sturgeon .


    Anyway, in my book the Green brand name has been sullied irretrievably.[/QUOTE]

    I forgot to post this link:
    https://www.compassonline.org.uk/snp-plaid-and-the-green-party-join-forces-to-resist-tories-toxic-politics/
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • Thrugelmir
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    elantan wrote: »
    Is she really representing everyone? I don't feel like she represents me at all ... she speaks for me ... but no I don't think she represents me

    If you are narrowed minded in your outlook then your view is fully understandable. Sounds if you'd prefer living in a one party state where you are simply told what to do. Without the necessity to consider other viewpoints. Love it or hate it, the UK operates as a democracy. Something many of us appreciate.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    .string. wrote: »
    Now is not the time

    As the entire point of and reason for calling a second referendum is for an iScotland to end up back inside the EU or EEA in the shortest time possible now is precisely the time.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    a one party state where you are simply told what to do. Without the necessity to consider other viewpoints.

    Sounds like the UK under the current Brextremist Tory govt.

    The views of the 16m people who voted remain have been completely ignored - no attempt at compromise - no attempt at reasonable accommodation of the nations who voted remain.
    Love it or hate it, the UK operates as a democracy. .

    A functioning democracy requires a functioning opposition to hold the party in power to account.

    The UK does not have that with Labour in it's current condition.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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