The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Rinoa

Meanwhile the incompetent SNP waste another £500,000 of taxpayers money.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/13/taxpayer-facing-500000-legal-bill-over-snp-state-guardian-court/

mollycat

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Scottish media is eating itself.

You're right about what would've happened should an SNP MP/MSP have liked or retweeted something from a borderline unhinged blog account like Effie's. Davidson gets away with it because the press are now too habitually attuned to the SNP increasingly so since 2011 to bother with anything else.

I gave up ages ago being surprised or even angry about it. It's just how it is, and how it will be until either independence, or the SNP start losing very big in the polls. It does feel now that a lot of the press are now simply echoing each other in order to feel relevant. But balanced cross party wide reporting and investigative journalism is long gone in Scotland. Commentators who made their names during the indy ref like Torrance reduced to writing the same articles week in week out. No matter what the news is, there's always an SNP angle shoe horned in somewhere.

I just find it boring these days. And amusing logging in here to see some getting all hysterical about the latest Express Sturgeon SLAP DOWN. The SNP are the same as any other political party with very good, and very bad points depending on one's perspective. Seeing it all presented from the bad, and no other party treated with anything like the same amount of scrutiny, or Ruth Davidson getting a free pass over something the papers would've been screaming for an SNP resignation over ?

Well, that's why we're all turning off and cancelling subs in droves over the last few years. It's actually Scottish Labour and their voters imo that's the key to independence, the press might be far better placed watching very closely what's going on there over the next year or so, rather than the SNP 24/7.

Can't help notice the continued obsession with,and reference to blogs,links, tweets; this journalist says this etc etc, scottish media not objective blah, blah.

Don't read The Scotsman, it's The Herarld that tell's the truth; those evil people at the BBC and The Express blah blah.

My advice is to step out of your media obsessed/political bubble and get your reference points from the real world; it's not the nasty media that is disadvantaging the independence cause, it's because the whole idea is untenable!!

ps...Didn't mention the S*P once

mrginge

Looks to me like some Indy supporters are more concerned with media articles and speculation about independence than the actual performance of their shambolic governing party.

Shakethedisease

Rinoa wrote: »

Meanwhile the incompetent SNP waste another £500,000 of taxpayers money.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/13/taxpayer-facing-500000-legal-bill-over-snp-state-guardian-court/

It helps to read the article.

But Mr Calvert accused the Scottish Government of wasting £500,000 of “taxpayers’ money on a scheme that has been declared unlawful, a breach of the human rights of families, outside the competence of the Scottish Parliament and not fit for purpose.”

Another SNP accused in the Telegraph. Another bore fest of a slanted article which conveniently omits lots of pertinent details.. Mr Calvert brought the case to court in the first place.

Shakethedisease

mrginge wrote: »

Looks to me like some Indy supporters are more concerned with media articles and speculation about independence than the actual performance of their shambolic governing party.

Not really. We were just making general observations about the Scottish media.

The SNP's performance hasn't been that bad since 2007. It's kind of why they keep getting voted in. Logic dictates that if their performance really was as shambolic as the media makes out, the voters might have noticed after a decade. Never mind giving them more votes than ever before in May. It's certainly not for the want or a lack of front page headlines trying to tell people how crap they are. Doesn't live up to the reality am afraid.

That's your own basic logic fail right there.

CLAPTON

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Not really. We were just making general observations about the Scottish media.

The SNP's performance hasn't been that bad since 2007. It's kind of why they keep getting voted in. Logic dictates that if their performance really was as shambolic as the media makes out, the voters might have noticed after a decade. Never mind giving them more votes than ever before in May. It's certainly not for the want or a lack of front page headlines trying to tell people how crap they are. Doesn't live up to the reality am afraid.

That's your own basic logic fail right there.

all true of course

but why aren't the polls showing 60% for iscotland?

Moto2

mrginge wrote: »

Looks to me like some Indy supporters are more concerned with media articles and speculation about independence than the actual performance of their shambolic governing party.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Not really. We were just making general observations about the Scottish media.

The SNP (unlike most parties) need the media to sing their song for them, it's the only way to get it out to enough people.
Hence they cry foul if they don't report it how the SNP spin doctors would like.

Hintza

Shakethedisease wrote: »

It's kind of why they keep getting voted in. Logic dictates that if their performance really was as shambolic as the media makes out, the voters might have noticed after a decade.

That might be because they have spent the last 9 out of 10 years bribing the electorate, but times they are a changing and the worm is turning.

Local council funding, robbing Peter to pay Paul, taking money from unionist councils for distribution to separatist councils will all take its toll in the end.

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Another SNP accused in the Telegraph. Another bore fest of a slanted article which conveniently omits lots of pertinent details.. Mr Calvert brought the case to court in the first place.

Still a waste of taxpayers money. Because of the initial incompetence of those involved. However you may try to deflect the bullets.

Hintza

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Because of the initial incompetence of those involved.

I'm currently working with Police Scotland to sort out how to implement another piece of legislation which is vert badly drafted. To the extent that chunks of it have been cut and pasted from from similar legislation regardless of whether it is relevant or not which just makes everyone's job more difficult. Fortunately I'm dealing with pragmatic people at Police Scotland who are in the main interpreting it in such a way that it might be just about workable. And if I can influence the implementation at the embryonic stage that will potentially save my people a lot of money.

And don't start me on minimum pricing of alcohol. That is just a tax on the poor and higher profits for the supermarkets.

The only bright spot might be a little relief for the on trade but that probably falls under the rule of unintended consequences.