The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

sss555s

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

And you'll understand why Juncker has sod all to do with UK trade deals after Brexit with the possible exception of the deal with the EU.

Strangely enough, that was the exact deal I was talking about.

CLAPTON

sss555s wrote: »

That's interesting.

Here are some more interesting figures...






https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/

if your argument is that the proportion of trade to total, is the key factor to the deal one gets, and so the UK will be screwed by the much bigger EU;
then presumably your argument means that iscotland will be screwed by the much bigger rUK anad also be screwed by the massively bigger EU27

TrickyTree83

sss555s wrote: »

Strangely enough, that was the exact deal I was talking about.

Only you were.

It's quite obvious to everyone else who read your comment suggesting the UK wouldn't be able to negotiate trade deals outside of the EU putting it's own interests first that you were incorrect and that only the deal with the EU will involve junker.

TrickyTree83

CLAPTON wrote: »

if your argument is that the proportion of trade to total, is the key factor to the deal one gets, and so the UK will be screwed by the much bigger EU;
then presumably your argument means that iscotland will be screwed by the much bigger rUK anad also be screwed by the massively bigger EU27

THANK YOU!!!!

DING DING DING!!

Give this man a gold star and hand sss555s a shovel to dig himself/herself out of that MASSIVE hole they're in right now.

:rotfl:

sss555s

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I will accept if we don't get what I prefer.

I'm still correct whether we get EEA or not that leaving the EU puts the UK in control of its trade arrangements. Scotland in the EU has to surrender that facet of independence.

I'd be very surprised if the UK can quickly negotiate better deals than the EU has already in place.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the USA shafts the UK, big time!

It will be a good challenge and I honestly with the UK (with or without Scotland) the best of luck.

TrickyTree83

sss555s wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if the UK can quickly negotiate better deals than the EU has already in place.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the USA shafts the UK, big time!

It will be a good challenge and I honestly with the UK (with or without Scotland) the best of luck.

It's not as bad as you would think, opening up trade with the commonwealth is a clich! point but it's also true. Shared language and common law practice makes it much easier.

Also we're perfectly able to simply inherit the trade deals agreed between the EU and the other 50 countries the EU has free trade with, including CETA, as described by prominent EU and UK constitutional lawyers.

sss555s

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

THANK YOU!!!!

DING DING DING!!

Give this man a gold star and hand sss555s a shovel to dig himself/herself out of that MASSIVE hole they're in right now.

:rotfl:

:rotfl: go and change your underwear, come back and read my post.

You get so excited over "interesting figures"

sss555s

CLAPTON wrote: »

if your argument is that the proportion of trade to total, is the key factor to the deal one gets, and so the UK will be screwed by the much bigger EU;
then presumably your argument means that iscotland will be screwed by the much bigger rUK anad also be screwed by the massively bigger EU27

I wasn't making any argument, if you read my post, but it does look like there are challenges ahead for the UK (with or without Scotland)

There seems to be a few brexiteers jumping for joy at the sad fact that the UK has devalued which is making it more attractive at the moment. These people have to realise that the tariffs haven't changed yet and that the [STRIKE]champagne[/STRIKE] Kent wine should be left in the rack for a while yet.

I also think May has opened a can of worms with the Nissan deal. But then, what could she do!

TrickyTree83

sss555s wrote: »

:rotfl: go and change your underwear, come back and read my post.

You get so excited over "interesting figures"

He's pointing out to you that your view of why Scotland should leave the UK if there is a bad deal with the EU swings the same way regarding Scotland and the UK.

I.e. Better for Scotland to stay in the UK rather than become independent and join the EU (thus losing independence regarding trade).

I get excited when the week long brick wall of BS gets a good old smack, Clapton came in like a wrecking ball.

The honesty of what I've been telling you all is there for all to see, it's simplistic too. I believe you all understand it fully, and realise what you make me repeat by replying with such bizarre posts such as the UK not being in control of its trade, or Scotland suddenly selling fish and whiskey to the EU to make up for the 58% of services sold to the rUK. The ideas you and others propose are so odd I'm beginning to think you're all actually on a wind up. No one can seriously believe such things.

sss555s

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

He's pointing out to you that your view of why Scotland should leave the UK if there is a bad deal with the EU swings the same way regarding Scotland and the UK.

But if prices increase too much in the UK then we can source tariff free from the EU. Where would the UK be able to source Scottish goods/ services cheaper?

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I.e. Better for Scotland to stay in the UK rather than become independent and join the EU (thus losing independence regarding trade).

I've thought about it and I think I would rather stay in the EU than be at the sharp end of Westminster's future difficult decisions if it came to a choice.

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

with such bizarre posts such as the UK not being in control of its trade, or Scotland suddenly selling fish and whiskey to the EU to make up for the 58% of services sold to the rUK. The ideas you and others propose are so odd I'm beginning to think you're all actually on a wind up. No one can seriously believe such things.

You seem to be the only one who thinks negotiating trade deals is simple, quick and inexpensive.

We have already debunked your "services sold to the UK" pitch.