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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • Wow, are we as a people genuinely saying that demographic problems can only be sorted by inward migration and that promoting the family and making 2+ children affordable again isn't also a solution?

    Immigration isn't devolved. And yet again we've got people thinking that Scots have forgotten that over the entire period of the last referendum one of the very prominent reasons continually put forward against independence was 'an aging population'. That's why we needed to stay in the UK. Brexit isn't going to help matters much on that front is it ?

    28 October 2016
    UK government rejects student visa calls

    ..But the Scottish Affairs Committee report cited an 80% drop in non-EU students remaining in the UK after graduating since the visa was scrapped.
    It said change was necessary to address demographic challenges in Scotland and fill skills gaps in areas including health and finance.
    The University of Edinburgh has also warned of a "brain drain of global talent" caused by students moving away from Scotland after graduation.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-37792997

    Now on top of that we'll possibly be losing qualified EU students who might stay on and build lives here as well.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • .string. wrote: »
    Pigs will fly.
    You make me titter.:money:

    But you didn't answer the question. ;)
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    Immigration isn't devolved. And yet again we've got people thinking that Scots have forgotten that over the entire period of the last referendum one of the very prominent reasons continually put forward against independence was 'an aging population'. That's why we needed to stay in the UK. Brexit isn't going to help matters much on that front is it ?

    28 October 2016http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-37792997

    Now on top of that we'll possibly be losing qualified EU students who might stay on and build lives here as well.

    God forbid you might need to offer free tuition to English people to boost numbers.
  • .string.
    .string. Posts: 2,733 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    http://www.economist.com/news/britain/21606869-independent-scotland-would-be-rich-country-terrible-prospects-costly-solitude

    Brexit will only make things much worse for Scotland which has vastly different demographic challenges facing it.
    That link was from July 12th 2014. I'm surprised you remind us of how things have changed since that time, oil-wise.

    You are going to need the support so willingly given by the English.

    Why will Brexit make things worse when you don't know what it is? You are being unclear.
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    You make me titter.:money:

    But you didn't answer the question. ;)

    That's rich.
  • That's rich.
    Yup, as is quoting The Wee Ginger Dug as anything other than one person's opinion.
    Would you like to hazard a wild guess at the political persuasion of Mr Kavanagh & his Wee Ginger Dug?
    If you're in any doubt, have a read of the link below.
    Want to be quick?
    Look at the first comment below the "piece".


    For those south of the border who may not know:
    https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/whits-aw-this/
  • .string.
    .string. Posts: 2,733 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    You make me titter.:money:

    But you didn't answer the question. ;)

    I gave an appropriate response to a flippant deflection from the issue under discussion at the time.
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    The less the indy crowd answer questions the more the thread descends into farce.

    If you have no answers to give now and it goes badly, and the converted all go quiet, it doesn't bode well for indy campaign number 2.

    Perhaps you all ought to reconsider not answering questions in preparation and practice for the real deal or it could oh so easily go wrong, again.

    You're not convincing anyone on here, unless anyone can refute that? I'm keen to know.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    Immigration isn't devolved. And yet again we've got people thinking that Scots have forgotten that over the entire period of the last referendum one of the very prominent reasons continually put forward against independence was 'an aging population'. That's why we needed to stay in the UK. Brexit isn't going to help matters much on that front is it ?
    ...

    What a load of 'devolved baloney'.

    Migrants are going where the work is !!

    Don't you get that?

    For very different reasons that means East of England and London as popular destinations.

    Nothing is stopping companies setting up in Scotland; becoming successful; growing; and advertising for more staff across Europe. Nothing. Not one bit.

    Our favourite faux Geordie, Mike Ashley, employs loads of migrant workers in Derbyshire. He doesn't need devolution to tell him where to base his distribution warehouses.

    If you had a Tory led Scottish parliament you might start attracting jobs :).
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    The less the indy crowd answer questions the more the thread descends into farce.

    If you have no answers to give now and it goes badly, and the converted all go quiet, it doesn't bode well for indy campaign number 2.
    ...

    Oh I have learnt something. This is that the A9 highway up in Scotland must actually end in Damascus.

    This is the only way I can explain Hamish's conversion, on one of his drives on the road to Damascus. :D

    (At least I think it's Damascus. It might be a mirage caused by the Brexit fog)
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