The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shakethedisease

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Aww, did you miss me dear?
How sweet.
Now how about you change the record?
We've been here before.
And to be honest I'm quite pleased that my posts rile you so much; it proves that my points are getting through AND that you don't like them.

No your posts don't rile me at all. I enjoy reading them. When I no longer enjoy debating with you then I'll simply scroll past. No worries.

For as long as you persist in ignoring pertinent points or simply riding rough-shod over them; for as long as you condescend and belittle other posters; for as long as you continue with distractions, untruths and misrepresentations; for as long as you continue your coercion and unpleasant posting style I will continue.

Ditto and feel free.

Because despite your obviously delusional ideas, this thread needs to show others that Scotland maintains some semblance of balance and that not ALL Scots are hell-bent on the destruction of our country.

No one said otherwise. I'd disagree with the delusional thing though for obvious reasons.

Shakethedisease

Rinoa wrote: »

I like to refer it as the UK Government governing the UK.

I don't think I was disagreeing with you on any level about that with regard to the present and current state of affairs in the UK.

TrickyTree83

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I think headlines should be banned from using the words 'Scotland and veto' in the same sentence. Scotland cannot block Brexit for the UK and there was never any suggestion of it. But Holyrood will try and block it applying in Scotland either via constitutional/law means, or ultimately possibly via another referendum.

Devolved law is going to have to be rewritten at some point with either Brexit or this Great Repeal Bill. This will cause issues in both NI and Scotland and there is absolutely no point in going into denial that there won't be. Nor trying to downplay things like the Sewel convention or the Good Friday agreement as solely SNP grievances.

But I think Theresa May might have to deal with her own back benchers first.

There's no downplaying. Just how it is.

Holyrood exists at Westminsters pleasure and will be unable to resist a matter of reserved powers.

You had a vote in 2014. The UK had another vote in 2016. Both will be respected, and so they should for the wellbeing of the people of Scotland. I find all this debate around article 50 and the political and constitutional aspects pointless if you're advocating leaving yourselves and your compatriots without a pot to pee in. The economic argument is really the only one that matters, and remains the only one that both those most learned and ardent Wings Over Scotland followers and the SNP are unable to give an answer to.

Years they have had to prepare an economic defence. I thought we'd see some form of it from the SNP when the new GERS figures came out.

ruggedtoast

To be fair, when I saw May's antagonistic swaggering speech my mouth fairly dropped in amazement. Even I wanted independence for Scotland to wipe the smirk from her chops, and I'm not even Scottish.

God knows what Scots actually think. They must be up in arms.

A Tory Prime Minister almost no one wanted or expected to be PM, with a paper thin mandate conveniently forgets all the begging her predecessor did to Scotland, and starts throwing her weight around.

I presume there will be a 2017 referendum now, before Article 50 with talks for secession beginning in the Summer 2017.

I certainly hope so.

This Tory government is an absolute nightmare of ignorance, arrogance and borderline psychotic delusion. Wonder how long it will take before all the prostitutes sleaze start coming out of the woodwork just to resort them to type.

Conrad

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Sig > It's better to be a dead hero than a living wuss. - Drazic: Heartbreak High


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I like your sig.
Imagine 100 years from now looking back, would you feel your signature applies to those terrified of change wanting to cling to the status quo, or those that embrace change and the revolutionary Brexit evolution?

ruggedtoast

Conrad wrote: »

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Sig > It's better to be a dead hero than a living wuss. - Drazic: Heartbreak High


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No, I believe Scots should grasp this opportunity with both hands boldly.

They should call their own referendum, ignore the Tories squealing that its illegal, unilaterally secede from Little England and take their place in Europe.

Why on earth should they be led by a country that is itself led by a party they hate that seems determined only to cater to right wing xenophobic pensioners?






I like your sig.
Imagine 100 years from now looking back, would you feel your signature applies to those terrified of change wanting to cling to the status quo, or those that embrace change and the revolutionary Brexit evolution?

Conrad

Is Scotland scared of life without the magnificent old Men in Brussels directing them? Nah, Scots were instrumental to Empire 1, and will embrace the Empire 2 enterprise.


We Brits have always lead the way and not resiled from embracing change and innovation.


I was reading about the foundation of Singapore. A plucky Brit thought this swampy lump of jungle would make a great trading post. Hey presto, it quickly became a key centre for trade. People of the cowardly inhibited disposition would have dismissed the idea as nonsense.


We've always been luke warm EU protagonists, holding them back from ever closer union, this is a win for us and them. Stop fearing change and innovation.

ruggedtoast

Conrad wrote: »

Is Scotland scared of life without the magnificent old Men in Brussels directing them? Nah, Scots were instrumental to Empire 1, and will embrace the Empire 2 enterprise.


We Brits have always lead the way and not resiled from embracing change and innovation.


I was reading about the foundation of Singapore. A plucky Brit thought this swampy lump of jungle would make a great trading post. Hey presto, it quickly became a key centre for trade. People of the cowardly inhibited disposition would have dismissed the idea as nonsense.


We've always been luke warm EU protagonists, holding them back from ever closer union, this is a win for us and them. Stop fearing change and innovation.

Thanks, I thought BREXIT would be a disaster but now you have explained that the British Empire is coming back I realise that everything is going to be fine.

I look forward to being drafted to to some malarial hell hole so I can stick it up the fuzzie wuzzies, steal all their stuff and give it to the queen while my family dies of turberculosis in a tenement slum in the East End. Which is what the Empire provided for the working classes. A giant network of oppression and theft designed to ingratiate the toffs.

Oh wait, no that was 100 years ago. England is now a small country with little clout that has just shot its feet off because a bunch of geriatric bloody Barnes-Wallace's don't like foreigners.

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

I think headlines should be banned from using the words 'Scotland and veto' in the same sentence. Scotland cannot block Brexit for the UK and there was never any suggestion of it. But Holyrood will try and block it applying in Scotland either via constitutional/law means, or ultimately possibly via another referendum.

Devolved law is going to have to be rewritten at some point with either Brexit or this Great Repeal Bill. This will cause issues in both NI and Scotland and there is absolutely no point in going into denial that there won't be. Nor trying to downplay things like the Sewel convention or the Good Friday agreement as solely SNP grievances.

But I think Theresa May might have to deal with her own back benchers first.

Yes, it should be blocked, using instead "The SNP can't ......"


I don't follow your logic about the problem with re-writing devolved law - surely that is just the Devolved Parliament's job. Then the SNP can wrestle with what to keep or not.

Shakey - Give us an example of a devolved law that will cause a problem.

Conrad

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Oh wait, no that was 100 years ago. England is now a small country with little clout that has just shot its feet off because a bunch of geriatric bloody Barnes-Wallace's don't like foreigners.

The worlds number one soft power, influential in everything from the brave new world of genetics, to having the worlds second largest Satellite sector, the place where most international trade contracts are rendered and subject to English law, world beating sports people and so much more.


As I said 2 years ago, the problem with remainers is they have an impotent view of Britain and no sense of the huge innovations Brexit will launch.


Watch a weep baby, global free trade pioneering is what we're all about, free of cloying EU interventions and protectionism.


It's liberating to have an open mind that embraces the adventures before us.