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The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

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  • zagubov
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    I don't know what I like best about this thread. :think:

    Is it the exuberant bonhomie?
    The inexhaustible sparkling wit?
    The uplifting joie de vivre? :whistle:
    There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
  • mollycat
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    zagubov wrote: »
    I don't know what I like best about this thread. :think:

    Is it the exuberant bonhomie?
    The inexhaustible sparkling wit?
    The uplifting joie de vivre? :whistle:

    Or people with money who live hundreds of miles from Scotland trying to persuade people with less money in Scotland to kiss goodbye to services, pensions, their future etc,ect.

    Takes all sorts I suppose :)
  • Moby
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    edited 24 November 2019 at 5:09PM
    Tromking wrote: »
    In other news....
    The Tories in one poll in Scotland showing a healthy 7 point bounce up to 28% with the SNP on 40%.
    It’s as if the SNP story about BJ in Scotland is absolutely robblocks! :)

    A public service worker in the MOJ supporting the tories, the same tories who slashed the very services he provides.... unbelievable! You seriously support this clown?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-fact-check-uk-twitter-tory-manifesto-launch-election-debate-a9215901.html?fbclid=IwAR1_SX92sdV_J3YIbfjGQ_MwBuSFgwI56YTN6WIVaTov9qUQWG-A_eei5jw
  • I managed to get on to the audience on Question Time last night

    A few seconds of yours truly

    https://www.facebook.com/theSNP/videos/2519315238287251/
    I thought you were brilliant ! Well done :T:beer:
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Tromking
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    edited 24 November 2019 at 6:07PM
    Moby wrote: »
    A public service worker in the MOJ supporting the tories, the same tories who slashed the very services he provides.... unbelievable! You seriously support this clown?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-fact-check-uk-twitter-tory-manifesto-launch-election-debate-a9215901.html?fbclid=IwAR1_SX92sdV_J3YIbfjGQ_MwBuSFgwI56YTN6WIVaTov9qUQWG-A_eei5jw

    As ever you seem obsessed with my former job. The Tories are getting my vote this time as they're the only ones who seem interested in honouring my vote in the Brexit referendum. Perhaps more pertinent to this thread they are also the only ones seemingly interested in defeating those who would destroy my country. Bigger picture Old Boy.
    “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧
  • Arklight
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    Tromking wrote: »
    As ever you seem obsessed with my former job. The Tories are getting my vote this time as they're the only ones who seem interested in honouring my vote in the Brexit referendum. Perhaps more pertinent to this thread they are also the only ones seemingly interested in defeating those who would destroy my country. Bigger picture Old Boy.

    What do you mean "your country"?
  • Moby
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    edited 24 November 2019 at 8:22PM
    Tromking wrote: »
    As ever you seem obsessed with my former job. The Tories are getting my vote this time as they're the only ones who seem interested in honouring my vote in the Brexit referendum. Perhaps more pertinent to this thread they are also the only ones seemingly interested in defeating those who would destroy my country. Bigger picture Old Boy.
    Obsessed? You've told us often enough about this Govmt and it's policies towards public services. I would have thought the bigger picture would have been to support your former comrades in their continuing endeavour to run a service with the piecemeal resources being given them?
  • Tromking
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    Moby wrote: »
    Obsessed? You've told us often enough about this Govmt and it's policies towards public services. I would have thought the bigger picture would have been to support your former comrades in their continuing endeavour to run a service with the piecemeal resources being given them?

    The bigger picture in this GE is the continuance of our country as a bonafide democracy. My entire 32 years service was unfortunately defined by parties of all colours rationing money to me and my comrades. A situation admittedly accelerated by the coalition government of 2010.
    Normal service as regards who I vote for will be resumed if and when the Brexit betrayal is sorted to my satisfaction.
    “Britain- A friend to all, beholden to none”. 🇬🇧
  • Tromking wrote: »
    The bigger picture in this GE is the continuance of our country as a bonafide democracy. My entire 32 years service was unfortunately defined by parties of all colours rationing money to me and my comrades. A situation admittedly accelerated by the coalition government of 2010.
    Normal service as regards who I vote for will be resumed if and when the Brexit betrayal is sorted to my satisfaction.
    Welcome to what being a voter in Scotland feels like every GE and in the Brexit ref. Not getting what you vote for when Westminster MP's decide otherwise. 60 years and counting for Scots. 'Betrayal' eh. ;)

    As an aside and general comment on the state of play re Scotland. I reiterate.. it doesn't matter who gets in, or how many seats anyone gets, or if the SNP get 6, 36, 46 or 56 MP's. Scotland getting taken out of the Single Market neccesitates a vote in Scotland agreeing or not. The Tory leaflets up here say nothing else other than five years ago 'we said No and we meant it'. I'm afraid when Nicola says the 'Scots must have a say'... she very much meant it too.

    Everything else and endless media speculations about MP numbers and who will 'allow' this or that when they become PM in Westminster is just noise and build up to it. Sturgeon will never accept that Westminster has a veto anyway, and at the moment she's fully backed up in that by Scots voting the SNP in above all the other parties. It'll be an interesting few months that's for sure.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Moby
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    edited 25 November 2019 at 8:09AM
    Welcome to what being a voter in Scotland feels like every GE and in the Brexit ref. Not getting what you vote for when Westminster MP's decide otherwise. 60 years and counting for Scots. 'Betrayal' eh. ;)

    As an aside and general comment on the state of play re Scotland. I reiterate.. it doesn't matter who gets in, or how many seats anyone gets, or if the SNP get 6, 36, 46 or 56 MP's. Scotland getting taken out of the Single Market neccesitates a vote in Scotland agreeing or not. The Tory leaflets up here say nothing else other than five years ago 'we said No and we meant it'. I'm afraid when Nicola says the 'Scots must have a say'... she very much meant it too.

    Everything else and endless media speculations about MP numbers and who will 'allow' this or that when they become PM in Westminster is just noise and build up to it. Sturgeon will never accept that Westminster has a veto anyway, and at the moment she's fully backed up in that by Scots voting the SNP in above all the other parties. It'll be an interesting few months that's for sure.
    Yes the brexiteers are hoist on their own petard in Scotland. Their themes of betrayal and self determination have been adroitly turned against them by Sturgeon. One of the costs of brexit could well be the end of the union.The Tories are displaying a perilously cavalier attitude to the future of the UK. Bo Jo the clown's deal leaves post-Brexit Northern Ireland more closely aligned to the EU while taking Great Britain, including remain-voting Scotland, into a much more distant relationship. That could boost Scottish nationalists in the 2021 Scottish election, making pressure for a new independence referendum irresistible.
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