The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

baldelectrician

Dee_Best wrote: »

Panelbase might say that.
It doesn't necessarily equate to people wanting independence though.

WhatScotlandThinks suggests the opposite with 47% saying no to independence vs 45% for.
http://whatscotlandthinks.org/questions/how-would-you-vote-in-the-in-a-scottish-independence-referendum-if-held-now-ask#line

I saw an earlier post saying BritainElects agreed, putting no at 51.3%.

I have an idea- why not have a referendum and find out the actual numbers ?

Shakethedisease

Dee_Best wrote: »

Panelbase might say that.
It doesn't necessarily equate to people wanting independence though.

WhatScotlandThinks suggests the opposite with 47% saying no to independence vs 45% for.
http://whatscotlandthinks.org/questions/how-would-you-vote-in-the-in-a-scottish-independence-referendum-if-held-now-ask#line

I saw an earlier post saying BritainElects agreed, putting no at 51.3%.

Excluding the don't knows it's 49/51. The average of the last 3 polls to ask the question is 50/50. Tight. And my point is that with the SNP on around 40% of the vote ( for this GE ) , equating SNP votes vs Unionist party votes in order to 'prove' Scots voters don't want independence is false.

Anyway baldelectrian is right. We should just have a vote then we'd all know.

Tromking

Wee Nippy eviscerated by the Paisley Rottweiler!! Nice one! ����

Herzlos

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Anyway baldelectrian is right. We should just have a vote then we'd all know.

Exactly, if it's a resounding no it'll shut the nationalists up again until the next time Westminster makes a country-destroying change.

mollycat

Tromking wrote: »

Wee Nippy eviscerated by the Paisley Rottweiler!! Nice one! ����

Unbelievable!

Leader of the SNP on national tv says that WM being not very nice to Scotland is "material change" :rotfl:

Car crash TV at it's wonderful best!

Cue further grudge/unfairness complaints, but as will be proved in subsequent nights AN will be just as "robust" with the other party leaders.

Shakethedisease

mollycat wrote: »

Unbelievable!

Leader of the SNP on national tv says that WM being not very nice to Scotland is "material change" :rotfl:

Car crash TV at it's wonderful best!

Cue further grudge/unfairness complaints, but as will be proved in subsequent nights AN will be just as "robust" with the other party leaders.

Roll on Jo Swinson and Boris then lol. Nicola did well to get half a word in occasionally. Andrew Neil is far too fond of his own voice when it comes to his interviews. Boris's one should be a complete hoot but sadly none of them will make any difference.

Dee_Best

baldelectrician wrote: »

I have an idea- why not have a referendum and find out the actual numbers ?

Don't you remember that you did?
Just like with Brexit, infantile foot-stamping and denial from those unwilling to accept the result without significant support doesn't mean that just because you didn't like the result you can have another go.
That's why both major parties tell you "no".

Personally being English I couldn't give two hoots whether Scotland becomes independent or not so long as Scots themselves make that choice.
So far all I see (borne out by she stats) is a bunch of whingers trying it on when the majority of Scots don't want independence

Shakethedisease

Dee_Best wrote: »

Don't you remember that you did?
Just like with Brexit, infantile foot-stamping and denial from those unwilling to accept the result without significant support doesn't mean that just because you didn't like the result you can have another go.

If people vote for it. Sure they can.

That's why both major parties tell you "no".

No longer major parties in Scotland I'm afraid. That's why there's a problem.

Personally being English I couldn't give two hoots whether Scotland becomes independent or not so long as Scots themselves make that choice.
So far all I see (borne out by she stats) is a bunch of whingers trying it on when the majority of Scots don't want independence

Scots themselves will make that choice in a referendum. You shouldn't have an issue with that given what you're saying above.

Thrugelmir

The SNP cannot claim to represent the majority (yet).

Shakethedisease

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The SNP cannot claim to represent the majority (yet).

50/50 re independence. 40% re the SNP as a political party. One doesn't equal the other anymore.