The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

I do, I also know that the UK deficit is about £32.3bn. I suspect some of the Scottish deficit is down to accounting.

You're (as far as I recall) happy for our economy to be hurt to leave the EU, so why is it so hard to understand that we're happy to take a hit to leave the UK? Doing that might even give us the levers to mitigate it.

I love the way you Nats swiftly move on to the next SNP trope without even taking on the arguments put against the one before.
If the SNP were advocating independence on the premise of potential economic hardship then you would have a point, as far as I can see they aren't.
Thanks to London and the South East, the only constituent nation of the Union in fiscal surplus is England. You seemed to have missed the fact that over a third of the UK's deficit is down to just 8% of the UK population. Goodbye free prescriptions (and so on..) come independence.

Herzlos

I've seen lots of advocating about taking back control, where people are happy to be worse off to achieve it.



I don't mind paying a bit more to live in a fair country.


If we're such a drain, why are you so keen to keep us?

Dee_Best

Herzlos wrote: »

I've seen lots of advocating about taking back control, where people are happy to be worse off to achieve it.



I don't mind paying a bit more to live in a fair country.


If we're such a drain, why are you so keen to keep us?

Who says "we" are keen? All you're doing is ignoring the majority of Scots that want to stay British and that is "why are you so keen to keep us".

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

I've seen lots of advocating about taking back control, where people are happy to be worse off to achieve it.

I don't mind paying a bit more to live in a fair country.

If we're such a drain, why are you so keen to keep us?

The argument on Scottish independence reduced to its most juvenile level.
I'm embarrassed for you.

Herzlos

Tromking wrote: »

The argument on Scottish independence reduced to its most juvenile level.
I'm embarrassed for you.

I do notice you keep skirting round the answer though, which is presumably why you're so embarrassed. I don't personally care though, just curious.

Dee_Best wrote: »

Who says "we" are keen? All you're doing is ignoring the majority of Scots that want to stay British and that is "why are you so keen to keep us".

The "we" was "Scots who want to leave", sorry.
Even if the majority of Scots want to stay British (and another referendum would confirm we're actually on the whole fine with Brexit) why is England so keen to keep Scotland part of the union if it's an annoying drain on resources? If it was as portrayed I'd have kicked them out decades ago and moved on to prosperity whilst ignoring our backwards neighbours.

Enterprise_1701C

Herzlos wrote: »

I do notice you keep skirting round the answer though, which is presumably why you're so embarrassed. I don't personally care though, just curious.





The "we" was "Scots who want to leave", sorry.
Even if the majority of Scots want to stay British (and another referendum would confirm we're actually on the whole fine with Brexit) why is England so keen to keep Scotland part of the union if it's an annoying drain on resources? If it was as portrayed I'd have kicked them out decades ago and moved on to prosperity whilst ignoring our backwards neighbours.

You don't throw your child out just because they are expensive to keep.

And we are happy to have you as long as you want to be part of the UK.

Your once in a generation referendum said that you wanted to remain part of the UK.

Scotland was offered fiscal autonomy not so long ago, it was turned down. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why.

elantan

Dee_Best wrote: »

What a narrow-minded (and hence incorrect) POV.

Scotland (Population approx. 5.5 million) which by majority voted to remain has its own parliament with an ever-increasing amount of devolved power.
That's some "contempt".

London (Population approx. 9 million) also by majority voted to remain.
Their equivalent doesn't wield anywhere near the power in parliament as the Scots do, so London are obviously being held more in contempt than you Scots.

I'm sure you are aware and just forgot Scotland is a country .. London isnt .

elantan

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

You don't throw your child out just because they are expensive to keep.

And we are happy to have you as long as you want to be part of the UK.

Your once in a generation referendum said that you wanted to remain part of the UK.

Scotland was offered fiscal autonomy not so long ago, it was turned down. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why.

I missed the once on a generation part of the Edinburgh agreement ... be a good soul and point it out to me eh

Enterprise_1701C

elantan wrote: »

I missed the once on a generation part of the Edinburgh agreement ... be a good soul and point it out to me eh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-29196661/salmond-referendum-is-once-in-a-generation-opportunity

elantan

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-29196661/salmond-referendum-is-once-in-a-generation-opportunity

I'm not sure if your aware or not ... but that's actually NOT the Edinburgh agreement nice try though... but please feel free to get to the bit where the Edinburgh agreement says once in a generation