The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shakethedisease

Arklight wrote: »

Cue the stampede of Shakey coming to say that 1021 is far too small a sample to be reliable because small sample surveys are only valid when they say what she wants them to. Like, 8 English people in a Wetherspoons in Trowbridge were polled by the Rev and 5 of them said they'd like to flood Scotland with Marmite and then dance on the bones of Scottish children because independence.

Don't talk tosh. I know how polls work and 1000 is a perfectly acceptable sample. Doesn't matter if it's the Telegraph or Wings that commission it as long and it adheres to BPC standards.

Shakethedisease

loadsacash wrote: »

They seem to be in 2 camps Indy ref 2 apap (All under one banner, Ex Labour voters etc)

Indy Ref 2 when they can be sure of a win (Old SNP supporters) Nicola Sturgeon is playing the long game and she is not as popular as she once was - The polls are saying that she could very well loose the pro Indy majority in Hollyrood http://www.thenational.scot/news/16296528.Poll_suggests_Holyrood_pro-indy_majority_will_be_lost/

Alex Salmond is a gambler - I think that there may be a play for the leadership of the SNP

Not a chance there will be a leadership challenge. An indy majority in 2021 no one cares two hoots about three years out. There'll be another vote on independence/or dissolving the Treaty of Union well before then anyway. AUOB is everyone, there aren't any 'camps' the clue is in the All Under One Banner name ?

In other news

BREAKING: The petrochemical giant Ineos has lost its legal challenge to overturn the Scottish Government’s ban on fracking.

and

nickeardleybbc Guy Verhofstadt at Brexit committee says no opposition to @ScotGov single market membership proposals on European side

<---- for the whole of the UK. Looks like the SNP might have done UK remainers a favour by producing this document.

Arklight

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Don't talk tosh. I know how polls work and 1000 is a perfectly acceptable sample. Doesn't matter if it's the Telegraph or Wings that commission it as long and it adheres to BPC standards.

That's indy done for then.

Shakethedisease

Arklight wrote: »

That's indy done for then.

Is the trend that matters, not individual polls. Indy is far from done for, 45% is a much better starting point for the next campaign than the 28% it was last time round.

Thrugelmir

That Guy, the unelected political voice of Brussels....

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Rees-Mogg DEMOLISHES Verhofstadt's claim that EU cannot flex its 'SACROSANCT' rules for UK
BREXITEER Jacob Rees-Mogg dismantled the European Union's negotiating strategy, telling EU Brexit coordinator Guy Verhofstadt there is "considerable evidence" the bloc ignored its own rules to reach an agreement on previous occasions.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/976952/Brexit-news-Guy-verhofstadt-Rees-Mogg-Select-Committee-UK-EU-Withdrawal-bill-latest-video

Arklight

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Is the trend that matters, not individual polls. Indy is far from done for, 45% is a much better starting point for the next campaign than the 28% it was last time round.

Flipping hell, how long is it going to take!?

loadsacash

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Is the trend that matters, not individual polls. Indy is far from done for, 45% is a much better starting point for the next campaign than the 28% it was last time round.

Its been 45% for the past 4 years!

It seems to have reached saturation point!

Arklight

loadsacash wrote: »

Its been 45% for the past 4 years!

It seems to have reached saturation point!

Based on Shakey's trendline from before the actual referendum, support for independence should be at 11,248,495% by now!

:rotfl:

Shakethedisease

loadsacash wrote: »

Its been 45% for the past 4 years!

It seems to have reached saturation point!

The fact that it's still that high after 4 years should actually be quite worrying ! It's not fallen back any. There'll be no sanctioned ref coming from Westminster anytime soon and that figure is why.

Labour and Corbyn was the Union's only hope, but alas he's failed miserably to galvanise the old school left and Central belt Labour in Scotland. The SNP have sat back and shut up for a year since the last GE, but are piling on the Anti-Tory narratives now last few weeks. Helped along by the fact that :-

..The Tories are now smashing up devolution and even the the most ardent unionist supporters and commentators cannot believe what is happening and can't get their heads round it. They'd pinned ALL their UK unionist hopes and wrote all their columns based on far more devolution coming to Scotland since 2014... not the Tories taking powers back and over ruling Holyrood and Labour, LABOUR (!) the party of devolution..sitting back abstaining and letting them. There's been a few scales falling from a few eyes the last few weeks I can tell you. And not just Murray Foote. Chris Deerin, my goodness changed days.:eek:

As the global far right rises, the SNP is offering an inclusive nationalism

You dont have to back Scottish independence to appreciate today's SNP as an emblem of decency, progressiveness and social conscience.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/06/global-far-right-rises-snp-offering-inclusive-nationalism The trend is going just fine in the right direction thanks very much.


This was quite funny too yesterday. The Conservative MP was obviously expecting a different answer.

Guy Verhofstadt confirms at the Home Affairs Committee that his earlier statement about there being no great obstacle to an independent Scotland joining EU was simply a "fact"

@nickeardleybbc More from @guyverhofstadt, this time at Home Affairs Committee. Asked by @Douglas4Moray if he thinks indy Scotland could get into EU with no big obstacles, says : "That's a simple fact"

elantan

apparently 15,000 marching at Bannockburn according to the BBC, meanwhile the Stirling Tories were out trying to promote their agenda in the town, wonder what their numbers were

me like the majority of yes supporters spent the day elsewhere ( gardening for me )