The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

baldelectrician

Tromking wrote: »

Scotland is free to leave when ever enough Scots decide they've had enough.

Not really- I point out to the lack of passing Section 30 order at Westminster, plus the powers of the Scottish Parliament to have a referendum at the time of its choosing are not there


So not 'free to leave' actually 'free to think about leaving and Westminster wont agree to a vote'

Shaka_Zulu

elantan wrote: »

Catalonia and Scotland are two very different matters, I had assumed you were intelligent enough to understand this, I was obviously wrong

No, I'm a thicko brexiteer and unionist so please enlighten me.

Shaka_Zulu

baldelectrician wrote: »

So not 'free to leave' actually 'free to think about leaving and Westminster wont agree to a vote'

You've had your vote, you guys called it once in a generation! Now you are just being greedy.

Anyway nobody wants one apart from the odd bod that turned up at George Square last weekend.

elantan

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

No, I'm a thicko brexiteer and unionist so please enlighten me.

I didn't have you pegged as that, but if it is how you see yourself ....

kabayiri

Any news on Indy Ref 2 yet?

Didn't Queen Nicola promise some action by now?

She's such a tease.

islandannie

elantan wrote: »

Catalonia and Scotland are two very different matters, I had assumed you were intelligent enough to understand this, I was obviously wrong

I think though you should be more concerned about the treatment by a government of its people

I think you show a lack of understanding about the Catalonia situation as a region of Spain and the extent that the Spanish government will go to prevent it`s unlawfull referendum.
If you don`t understand the Spanish governments standpoint then you are ignorant of it`s standpoint to allowing an independent Scotland to be allowed to either remain or rejoin the European union.
It will without doubt use it`s veto against Scotland if just to strengthen their own position on Catalonia.

Shakethedisease

kabayiri wrote: »

Any news on Indy Ref 2 yet?

Didn't Queen Nicola promise some action by now?

She's such a tease.

Nicola's the next act on stage. We're all still waiting on Gypsy Rose May to stop spinning the tassles while waving an oversized ostrich feather fan about and unveil the goods.

No Single Market membership for Scotland = Nicola's the next star turn entering stage left throwing free EFTA balloons to the crowd.

antrobus

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Nicola's the next act on stage. We're all still waiting on Gypsy Rose May to stop spinning the tassles while waving an oversized ostrich feather fan about and unveil the goods.

No Single Market membership for Scotland = Nicola's the next star turn entering stage left throwing free EFTA balloons to the crowd.

Nicola has yet to persuade Ms May to pass the necessary legislation to enable another referendum. Which of course, Nicola would still have to win.

No independence, no EFTA membership. A very simple formula.

Apart from the fact that Nicola needs to find eight billion quid or so to cover the loss of that UK subsidy.:)

Shakethedisease

antrobus wrote: »

Nicola has yet to persuade Ms May to pass the necessary legislation to enable another referendum.

May will never, ever ever pass the necessary legislation to enable another referendum. No illusions about that. You on the other had must be under the impression that folks like me or indeed any independence leaning person/organisation/party.. are sitting back with bated breath waiting for permission. We're not.

The rest of your post is hardly epic news or information for us all either. Though the 8 billion is debatable.

Which of course, Nicola would still have to win.

No independence, no EFTA membership. A very simple formula.

Apart from the fact that Nicola needs to find eight billion quid or so to cover the loss of that UK subsidy.:)

antrobus

Shakethedisease wrote: »

May will never, ever ever pass the necessary legislation to enable another referendum. No illusions about that. You on the other had must be under the impression that folks like me or indeed any independence leaning person/organisation/party.. are sitting back with bated breath waiting for permission. We're not.

Only the UK government can call a referendum. Unless you believe that UDI is going to work, you are just going to have to sit back and wait.:)

P.S. Scotland needs to be independent to join EFTA. There is no balloon to be flown.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

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The rest of your post is hardly epic news or information for us all either. Though the 8 billion is debatable.

Very little of what you post ' is hardly epic news or information for us all either'. Your refusal to even debate or discuss the fiscal reality of this hypothetical independent Scotland is also well known 'to us all' as well.

Here's the IFS analysis.
https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/8218

Their figures suggest the subsidy is more like 11 billion this fiscal year. So perhaps that 8 billion is 'debatable.:rotfl: