The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

fun4everyone

Shakethedisease wrote: »

what a majority of Scottish voters seem to want. And the electorate is never, ever wrong.

Haha yeah, well the majority of Scottish voters said No to independence, in a once in a lifetime (or generation) vote. So will the SNP ever respect the sovereign will of the Scottish people?

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

As usual, you decry the source and deflect to avoid the issue. All of a sudden you are an expert?

The source is fine. It's the highlighting of focus groups which don't reflect Scottish voting patterns I don't like. While it produces the predicable headlines in newspapers and Conservativehome .. his own graphs show that most SNP voters aren't changing their votes, have a 75% chance of winning that constituency and 73% of voters questioned in it think the UK is 'on the wrong path'

I provided a link so you can check the graphs etc yourself. You do not need to be an expert to read a simple graph. Have a look yourself and then get back to me on what it's telling you compared to what Ashcroft's chosen highlighted focus groups and media headlines are telling you. I think you'll find they're at odds with each other.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

Actually I don't use that term for the SNP however appropriate it may be.

I prefer the Scottish Neverendum Party!

Do the majority of Scots want another Referendumn?

That's what you offer, plus repeated whining and division, with the result that Scots turn against Scots.

I am not telling Scots to do anything. I am sticking up for my fellow countrymen.

The majority think it should be up to the Scottish Govt to decide and that Westminster shouldn't block it if Sturgeon gets the most seats on June 8th.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

My bold. Your words

How strange it is that smells of anti English sentiment?

Care to explain?

C'mon string. Play fair.. it's ok to lump me into a group called nasty and anti-english is it ? Care to explain ?

You know I'm not anti-English, nor nasty. This sort of narrative has been done to death and it's time it stayed there.

Shakethedisease

fun4everyone wrote: »

Haha yeah, well the majority of Scottish voters said No to independence, in a once in a lifetime (or generation) vote. So will the SNP ever respect the sovereign will of the Scottish people?

Of course. Until there's a second ref and we get to decide on somewhat updated terms and factors since 2014.

mollycat

4 consecutive posts and 10 out of 19 on this page.

The propaganda blitz continues

.string.

mollycat wrote: »

Yeah??! Must be the way we're all reading your posts then!:rotfl:

Anyway; you think you being a (self proclaimed) "nice person with an English husband", makes the division, intolerance and bullying within Scotland caused by nationalism okay then?

Nice logic Einstein.

Spot on.

The inability to see, admit and decry vile things done and lies told by the Nat movement is what grates. Never facing up to the situation, always deflecting, It's the same with the important matters of economics, let alone responding to discussion points.

The result of all of that is that credibility evaporates, hopefully reflected within the Scottish political scene.

I think I'll take a short break from this and see how the GE vote share turns out.

Oh one parting shot, the SNP (see above Shakey post for example) claim simultaneously that the GE has nothing to do with the Referendum/independence and yet also that (quote) "The majority think it should be up to the Scottish Govt to decide and that Westminster shouldn't block it if Sturgeon gets the most seats on June 8th."

In any case, we all know it is the vote of individuals that count in a referendum and thus it's the vote count that matters in the GE. The FPTP system is for politicians that look after the interests of all voters, something the SNP simply don't care about.

sss555s

.string. wrote: »

My bold. Your words

How strange it is that smells of anti English sentiment?

Care to explain?

This is where you show you know nothing. Any decent person has no English anti sentiment. There may be a dislike for Westminster and it's way of working but many English dislike Westminster too.
The debate is consistent where ever the poster is from.

mollycat wrote: »

Yeah??! Must be the way we're all reading your posts then!:rotfl:

Anyway; you think you being a (self proclaimed) "nice person with an English husband", makes the division, intolerance and bullying within Scotland caused by nationalism okay then?

Nice logic Einstein.

You seem to be painting a picture of Scotland that I have never seen, which makes me wonder...

mollycat wrote: »

4 consecutive posts and 10 out of 19 on this page.

The propaganda blitz continues

What a desperate attempt :rotfl:

Shake is replying to questions and faux points in every post. She's not jumping in with random posts claiming a dubious "assessment" funded by Mundell as fact :rotfl:

sss555s

.string. wrote: »

Spot on.

The inability to see, admit and decry vile things done and lies told by the Nat movement is what grates. Never facing up to the situation, always deflecting, It's the same with the important matters of economics, let alone responding to discussion points.

The result of all of that is that credibility evaporates, hopefully reflected within the Scottish political scene.

I think I'll take a short break from this and see how the GE vote share turns out.

Oh one parting shot, the SNP (see above Shakey post for example) claim simultaneously that the GE has nothing to do with the Referendum/independence and yet also that (quote) "The majority think it should be up to the Scottish Govt to decide and that Westminster shouldn't block it if Sturgeon gets the most seats on June 8th."

In any case, we all know it is the vote of individuals that count in a referendum and thus it's the vote count that matters in the GE. The FPTP system is for politicians that look after the interests of all voters, something the SNP simply don't care about.

Seriously string, I'm not sure how you get this knowledge of the horrible picture you paint of Scotland but I would advise you check the credibility of your sources.

There probably wont be any new news for a bit in here anyway.

TrickyTree83

Still waiting for that response to the statistics ISTL. And Shakey for that matter.

"Brexit consequences" hard to defend that when there's figures on it.