The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Shaka_Zulu

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Is that really all you have left ?

Shakey you are starting to use that phrase a little too frequently.

I realise must be very disheartening realising that peak SNP has now passed, iScotland is now but a dream.

The nats have nothing left apart from decline.

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Is that really all you have left ? Name calling, infantile crap about 'nasty' parties and the usual unbacked up Anti-English anecdotes. Oh dear, the union really is in trouble if this is the best you have to sell the continuance of the UK with.

I don't believe you, but that's not the point.

What we are observing is the effect of divisions perpetrated by the SNP and pursued obsessionally.

Always ready to blame someone else aren't you. The more division the better for the cause. The Scottish Nasty Party is not a new characterisation.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

No because a purpose of that analysis is to examine why people may be changing their votes; so quoting the whole of the opening paragraph;

"This week’s general election focus group report comes from two Scottish seats which fell to the SNP in 2015 but could be competitive on 8 June: Edinburgh South West, and Aberdeen South. In each seat we spoke to two types of people: those who voted no to Scottish independence in 2014, Labour or Liberal Democrat in 2015, and who were undecided what to do this time round; and those who voted SNP at the last general election and to leave the EU in last year’s referendum."

His focus groups are focusing on people who are either already not SNP/Yes inclined, or SNP inclined but value leaving the EU as more important. These voters aren't reflective of current voting patterns in Scotland. Also both seats in his focus groups are to the East or North of Scotland. The most populated areas and where the vast majority of seats will be won and lost are in the Central belt.

He released his polling from Edinburgh South West. And to be honest I'm struggling to see his point other than it makes for good headlines rubbishing Sturgeon and the 'nats' to be honest.

https://dashboards.lordashcroftpolls.com/Storyboard/RHViewStoryBoard.aspx?RId=%c2%b2&RLId=%c2%b2&PId=%c2%b1%c2%b4%c2%ba%c2%b5%c2%b4&UId=%c2%b4%c2%b9%c2%b9%c2%b9%c2%bc&RpId=2

Considering the SNP are on 40% and when asked if the UK was on the right or wrong track, 73% said the wrong track.

SNP win chance = 75 %

Sorry in the link you have to scroll down to Edinburgh South West.

Shakethedisease

molerat wrote: »

My personal honest experiences out in the real world trumps the picture the SNP leaders want you blinkered brainwashed followers to believe.

Nearly half the population of Scotland is blinkered and brainwashed. Wow. You talk about your negative experiences, I would say that given the respect you show for fellow Scots residents, that it might not be anything to do with where you were born which is garnering those honest experiences.

You can't go about calling 4/5 in 10 of the electorate stupid.

Shakethedisease

Shaka_Zulu wrote: »

Shakey you are starting to use that phrase a little too frequently.

I realise must be very disheartening realising that peak SNP has now passed, iScotland is now but a dream.

The nats have nothing left apart from decline.

Shaka I'm far from disheartened. I'm just bored with the same anti-English s***e being posted here and responding to it since around 2011. If you're hearing the phrase again more frequently it's because this anti-english carp is coming up again.

It does tend to when there is an election in the offing it has to be said. But it bores the absolute t**s off me these days. As well as the 'nasty nats' thing. I'm not a nasty person, I'm quite a nice person ( with an English husband ).

The SNP will win most seats, Davidson will reap May's crashing polling replicated in Scotland as all those wavery Labour voters realise that tactically voting Tory, might actually mean Scottish Tory votes making for a UK Tory majority if the difference is a few seats.. when obviously what Labour voters want is a Labour one.

We've had peak Tory a few weeks ago. That's gone now.

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

I don't believe you, but that's not the point.

What we are observing is the effect of divisions perpetrated by the SNP and pursued obsessionally.

Always ready to blame someone else aren't you. The more division the better for the cause. The Scottish Nasty Party is not a new characterisation.

No string. What the SNP is offering is what a majority of Scottish voters seem to want. And the electorate is never, ever wrong.

You are in effect ( in vain ) trying to tell the Scottish electorate that they are wrong. Unless what want to change your phraseology to 'the Scottish Nasty Electorate' then you really don't want to go much further down this particular route.

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

His focus groups are focusing on people who are either already not SNP/Yes inclined, or SNP inclined but value leaving the EU as more important. These voters aren't reflective of current voting patterns in Scotland. Also both seats in his focus groups are to the East or North of Scotland. The most populated areas and where the vast majority of seats will be won and lost are in the Central belt.

He released his polling from Edinburgh South West. And to be honest I'm struggling to see his point other than it makes for good headlines rubbishing Sturgeon and the 'nats' to be honest.

https://dashboards.lordashcroftpolls.com/Storyboard/RHViewStoryBoard.aspx?RId=%c2%b2&RLId=%c2%b2&PId=%c2%b1%c2%b4%c2%ba%c2%b5%c2%b4&UId=%c2%b4%c2%b9%c2%b9%c2%b9%c2%bc&RpId=2

Considering the SNP are on 40% and when asked if the UK was on the right or wrong track, 73% said the wrong track.

SNP win chance = 75 %

Sorry in the link you have to scroll down to Edinburgh South West.

As usual, you decry the source and deflect to avoid the issue. All of a sudden you are an expert?

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

No string. What the SNP is offering is what a majority of Scottish voters seem to want. And the electorate is never, ever wrong.

You are in effect ( in vain ) trying to tell the Scottish electorate that they are wrong. Unless what want to change your phraseology to 'the Scottish Nasty Electorate' then you really don't want to go much further down this particular route.

Actually I don't use that term for the SNP however appropriate it may be.

I prefer the Scottish Neverendum Party!

Do the majority of Scots want another Referendumn?

That's what you offer, plus repeated whining and division, with the result that Scots turn against Scots.

I am not telling Scots to do anything. I am sticking up for my fellow countrymen.

.string.

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Nearly half the population of Scotland is blinkered and brainwashed. Wow. You talk about your negative experiences, I would say that given the respect you show for fellow Scots residents, that it might not be anything to do with where you were born which is garnering those honest experiences.

You can't go about calling 4/5 in 10 of the electorate stupid.

My bold. Your words

How strange it is that smells of anti English sentiment?

Care to explain?

mollycat

Shakethedisease wrote: »

It does tend to when there is an election in the offing it has to be said. But it bores the absolute t**s off me these days. As well as the 'nasty nats' thing. I'm not a nasty person, I'm quite a nice person ( with an English husband ).

Yeah??! Must be the way we're all reading your posts then!:rotfl:

Anyway; you think you being a (self proclaimed) "nice person with an English husband", makes the division, intolerance and bullying within Scotland caused by nationalism okay then?

Nice logic Einstein.