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Almshouses have put CCTV cameras which looks onto my door!

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  • What is the exact wording of the particular rule (or rules) re visitors?

    Presumably, even "dinosaurs" like these particular trustees cant do a blanket ban on all visitors?

    I'm remembering that I used to regularly visit an occupant of an almshouse a while back and neither they (nor I) could predict exactly when I would be doing so. I would just ring on the bell and, if they were in they were in, and if they weren't they weren't. The thought never crossed my mind about getting "permission" to visit from anyone other than I was going at the tenants invitation and they never said anything about having had to request permission for me (or anyone else) to visit.
  • NewShadow
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    What is the exact wording of the particular rule (or rules) re visitors?

    Presumably, even "dinosaurs" like these particular trustees cant do a blanket ban on all visitors?

    I'm remembering that I used to regularly visit an occupant of an almshouse a while back and neither they (nor I) could predict exactly when I would be doing so. I would just ring on the bell and, if they were in they were in, and if they weren't they weren't. The thought never crossed my mind about getting "permission" to visit from anyone other than I was going at the tenants invitation and they never said anything about having had to request permission for me (or anyone else) to visit.


    Having a license is basically the same as being a lodger.

    If you had a lodger, you would be able to set any rule you liked regards them having visitors - and I think most people would be reasonable in saying they didn't want their lodgers to have guests in the house when they weren't there.
    That sounds like a classic case of premature extrapolation.

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  • Having had lodgers - I basically didn't set any rules at all re visitors. I just stated that I wished to know in advance if they wanted a friend to stay the night.

    However, my point is that there must be a rule/rules somewhere in this list of rules re visitors - or, otherwise, these trustees couldn't say "You are breaking our rules about visitors".

    So - I am asking to know what the exact wording is of that rule/rules.
  • Further thought - and I guess Shelter might be au fait with how up-to-date (or otherwise!) these almshouses have to be, ie re legal protection for tenants.???

    http://www.shelter.org.uk/
  • kodiplod
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    Having had lodgers - I basically didn't set any rules at all re visitors. I just stated that I wished to know in advance if they wanted a friend to stay the night.

    However, my point is that there must be a rule/rules somewhere in this list of rules re visitors - or, otherwise, these trustees couldn't say "You are breaking our rules about visitors".

    So - I am asking to know what the exact wording is of that rule/rules.

    It says this under guests..

    "Neither friends nor relatives should be permitted to stay as house guests for more than fourteen days without written permission from the Trustees. No residents shall be permitted to let or part with the possession of the room or rooms allotted to him or her, or, except with the special permission of the Trustees, to allow any person to share the occupation of the same or any part thereof.
  • csgohan4
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    Could OP not be giving us the whole story.

    Either way from the management point of view it will seem you are overstaying or appearing so.

    There must be a reason why they have decided to put cctv, not just over 1 visit. OP is there anything else your not mentioning?
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  • marksoton
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    csgohan4 wrote: »

    There must be a reason why they have decided to put cctv,

    A very good one i'd say considering the potential cost.
  • kodiplod
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    csgohan4 wrote: »
    Could OP not be giving us the whole story.

    Either way from the management point of view it will seem you are overstaying or appearing so.

    There must be a reason why they have decided to put cctv, not just over 1 visit. OP is there anything else your not mentioning?

    No. These people are horrible and bullies and quite frankly I don't think my 70 year old nan should have to be treated like this.
  • HappyMJ
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    kodiplod wrote: »
    No. These people are horrible and bullies and quite frankly I don't think my 70 year old nan should have to be treated like this.

    Can you help your nan be rehoused with a housing association into another property?
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  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    kodiplod wrote: »
    No. These people are horrible and bullies and quite frankly I don't think my 70 year old nan should have to be treated like this.

    In which case it may be time for you to look at other options regarding your nans housing.
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