Benefit changes from April.

missbiggles1

nannytone wrote: »

most working age people also don't claim means tested benefit either.

But nobody ever says they believe that, whereas people assume that the majority of pensioners do.

p00hsticks

Lanzarote1938 wrote: »

Isn't it strange that those on benefits always think that those of us 'lucky' enough to have a job are rolling in surplus income.

nannytone wrote: »

no one is talking about comparing those on benefit with those that are employed.

Lanzarote1938 wrote: »

Just as well really as I rather supect that in a lot of cases the people on benefits will be better off, time and moneywise, than those working.

For the record 'those on benefits' and 'those working' are not necessarily two completely different sets of people. Even disregarding benefits such as PIP and DLA that are not means tested and do not preclude work, there are plenty of people on means tested benefits such as WTC, CTC etc that are working at least some hours.

nannytone_2

i don't think you can class tax credits as the same thing though, as savings are irrelevant to eligibility.
income related benefits have strict capital restrictions

Bollotom

I'm a pensioner. I get nowt apart from state and occupation pension. Missus gets state pension. I pay 20% tax on above personal allowance. So if I get a 5% increase I pay 20% on that too. And Council Tax of £1300. Not all pensioners can claim any sort of benefit. Oh, aye. I was unemployed for two weeks between 1959 and 2009 but you could flit from job to job in the 50s, 60s and 70s. So I do consider myself, and all other pensioners worth the increases. :cool:

nannytone_2

no one is talking about the state pension though.

the conversation is about means tested benefit

Bollotom

Oh. Forgive me, Nanny, it was your initial statement that said, "Presumably because the only increase is for pensioners?
everyone else has plenty of money and don't need any additional help?"

But I get your drift. :-)

seven-day-weekend

Housing_Benefit_Officer wrote: »

Pensioners vote - can't upset the grey vote.

And if other sectors of society don't like it, they know what they can do.









(NB - the answer is VOTE!).

FBaby

I would assume contribution based ESA or contribution based JSA also would be the outcome of an investment also (paying taxes) as they are beneficiaries of the system what do you think?

Not really as to be entitled to the state pension you have to have contributed a minimum amount or you are not entitled, you can get ESA/JSA regardless of how much you've put in in the first place.

merlin68

No its 2 years contributions for esa/jsa.

p00hsticks

merlin68 wrote: »

No its 2 years contributions for esa/jsa.

It's two years contributions for CONTRIBUTIONS BASED JSA and ESA, but if you don't have those then there is means tested INCOME BASED versions of the same benefits that people could qualify if they have limited savings and income.