Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer

zagubov

CKhalvashi wrote: »

I'm much the same.

What does concern me is that the majority of people that voted out were older (which is fair enough), but they're also the ones who won't use what the EU has to offer as much.

A 1.2% margin is far too small to base a final decision on, especially as Farage et al would have kicked up a huge fuss if it was 1.2% the other way around.

He certainly would have. The second referendum proposal was by a Leave supporter who wanted a retry if the Remain won by a whisker. He'd also suggested that a remain vote in Scotland that kept the rest of the UK in should trigger a second referendum. Never mind phone shops or shoe shops, we should open up a chain store called Second Referendum Warehouse.


There's a movie on now about a brit in a Japanese prisoner of war camp who wanst to confront one of his captors afterwards. My great-uncle had his appendix taken out without anaesthetic in a Japanese POW camp. They had nothing (but sterilised the area with saki). He was in such pain from the appendicitis he didn't feel the pain of the op anyway.

Survived and after the war thanked the surgeons for saving his life.

Pyxis

CKhalvashi wrote: »

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That's very interesting, CK.

Where was it from?

vivatifosi

I saw that article yesterday. I think it was from the Guardian.

vivatifosi

A corker of a Matt cartoon today

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/06/matt-cartoons-june-2016/

bugslet

chewmylegoff wrote: »

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I can't believe they are 16 months! beautiful pic.

PasturesNew wrote: »

Did you know the people of Aberfan were robbed by the Govt of the time?

It was quite a scandal. The villagers had to pay £150,000 to clear the slagheap that killed all the children. The Govt didn't repay that until 40 years later and then only the £150k, not the equivalent value.

Rather than try to explain, here's a link that covers it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberfan_disaster if you search for £150,000 on that page.

I never knew that - that was really shoddy of the government.:(

silvercar

chewmylegoff wrote: »

I need a bigger car not a smaller one. I reckon we would need three minis to transport all the carp for the twins! I hope it hasn't broken down!



The twins are nearly 16 months old now. Ella attacks all electronic items, including cameras, on sight and with extreme prejudice hence the few photos we have all feature her about to assault the photographer. Sofia plays by herself in the corner and says "bubble, bubble, bubble, pop" over and over again for about 16 hours a day. I am exhausted.

Just the cutest.

I wanted little girls!

Had OH's relative batmitzvah party last night (12th birthday - coming of age). First time DS2-GF was included. This was hosted by the wealthiest branch of the family. Themed Hawaiin evening, impressive attention to detail- down to sounds of waves crashing on the sea as you walked in. Think the GF was a little gobsmacked at the whole thing.

DQ the last para plse.

Generali

Has a batmizvah always been a thing or is it a modern addition to the Jewish social calendar?

ukmaggie45

OH just did the phone call for me to DWP for PIP. I had to agree to him doing it, whole thing took about 20 minutes including the waiting time. Very confusing call. Been putting it off, as the letter about it arrived the day of dear MiL's cremation - lovely thing to get home to from that! :eek: It's all come at just about the worst time of year for us as it's likely to completely b*gger up our time at caravan plus it's making it difficult to know if we'll get boat launched, which we didn't manage last year.

Oh well.

Pyxis

Generali wrote: »

Has a batmizvah always been a thing or is it a modern addition to the Jewish social calendar?

I've just been reading up on this, but would anyone on here who's Jewish please correct me if my source is wrong:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_and_Bat_Mitzvah

It appears from the above that the modern concept of Bat Mitzvah started in America in 1922, when a Rabbi held one for his daughter.
However, there are far older references, and some ancient ones, to the acknowledgement of the coming-of-age of both boys and girls.

I noted with interest that the Bat Mitzvah age for Orthodox Jews is 12, whereas in the Reformed Synagogue it's 13, the same as for boys. Is this due to an equality thing?


I also noted, with amusement, that there is also a Bark Mitzvah, for dogs. :T
Edit. The latter seems to be a US thing.

PasturesNew

I've got an 1887 UK newspaper here that says of Bar Mitzvah

... attains his religious majority, and assumes the obligations of a member of the ancient house of Israel. From the day of his "Bar Mitzvah" term which literally means 'a son of the commandment ' he becomes responsible for every one of his actions....

And a newspaper of 1872 refers to a man laying down a cask of booze, 15 years earlier, to be ready for his son's Bar Mitzvah.

And another article in 1869 warning of a boy's Bar Mitzvah day "especially fathers of families be thankful that their children were spared the terrible calamity which laid so heavily on the Bar Mitzvah boy of the day"

So it's probably older than US/1922.