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Where to start? sons USA girlfriend wants to move to UK to be with him.

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  • duchy
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    JasX wrote: »
    the Australian working holiday visa?

    https://www.seasonworkers.com/workpermitsandVisas/australia/workingholidayvisa.aspx

    similar schemes run in the USA/UK etc?

    Since you don't seem particularly well informed your inability to think of possible solutions can be regarded to have very little bearing on whether they exist :)

    A working holiday visa doesn't give residency rights.At the end of the visa you have to leave and cannot return on a second working visa ever (with one exception - agricultural workers who can get a 2nd one only)
    Certainly you can enter Australia on a working visa and not work but no benefits would be paid (apparently the OP's son is on benefits and incapable of working)

    Not sure why you think this is any kind of solution for the OP.
    Young couple -one can't work, other has a limited skill set and no funds to support themselves.
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  • cheepskate_2
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    edited 20 January 2016 at 1:27PM
    Why is the OP egging this on.... Looking at how to move her here.

    Let her come over for a months holiday...then he goes back with her for a back to back month.......Let them do this for a few times each, it would soon let them see if they really do want to be together....Talking on the phone and skype is so different from living together.
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    .Of course...They would both need to save, something that the OP seems to have forgotten to tell them in all the exitement of getting a sons future girlfriend over here.
  • hannahp
    hannahp Posts: 930 Forumite
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    I am not egging this on .... as explained I am trying to see if it's possible for my son.

    Also they have already done what your second paragraph suggests.

    Regarding your third paragraph :eek: I haven't forgotten anything!you have no idea what I have or have not discussed with them.
    That's quite a leap of the imagination you're having.
    cheepskate wrote: »
    Why is the OP egging this on.... Looking at how to move her here.

    Let her come over for a months holiday...then he goes back with her for a back to back month.......Let them do this for a few times each, it would soon let them see if they really do want to be together....Talking on the phone and skype is so different from living together.
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    .Of course...They would both need to save, something that the OP seems to have forgotten to tell them in all the exitement of getting a sons future girlfriend over here.
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  • JasX
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    duchy wrote: »
    A working holiday visa doesn't give residency rights.At the end of the visa you have to leave and cannot return on a second working visa ever (with one exception - agricultural workers who can get a 2nd one only)
    Certainly you can enter Australia on a working visa and not work but no benefits would be paid (apparently the OP's son is on benefits and incapable of working)

    Not sure why you think this is any kind of solution for the OP.
    Young couple -one can't work, other has a limited skill set and no funds to support themselves.

    The objective being both the youngsters can settle down in the same country, they could probably do this for a year in AUS, the GF could do this for a year in the UK and son could do this for a year in the US. By the end of that they should know if the relationship is likely to last.

    Of course this will require one or both of them to work and require savings be put aside.

    I think any solution assumes/requires this is possible. If we're genuinely talking !!!!less 'never going to hold down a job and expect a life on benefits' type kids then yes no country in their right mind will let them in to be a burden and immigration restrictions are designed specifically to prevent this.

    Knuckling down and building up savings is kinda a prerequisite here there is no gettign away from. If these kids want something big like this to happen to happen it's not going to come easily and will require work/obvious self support/possibly studying and skilling up.
  • Candyapple
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    I am guessing your son and his girlfriend are quite young? To be honest with you I don't see it happening and all you can do in the meantime is encourage them both to save / work if they are serious about it.

    Also you mentioned that they had visited each other in their respective countries for a reasonable period of time and seem to get on well - there is a massive difference between being on your best behaviour when your beau comes to stay than one person giving up their friends/family and country and adjusting to life in another one, whether they are messy/clean, moody, what they are like when things get tough/not enough income to buy nice things or go on holiday etc.
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  • fairy_lights
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    You still haven't mentioned how old your son and girlfriend are OP.
    But if they're old enough to consider emigrating together then they should really be old enough to do all the research and planning themselves.
  • hannahp
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    edited 20 January 2016 at 5:11PM
    I just want to mention that answering questions about age or time together are not necessarily relevant (as people vary widely in ability at different ages) & on past experience these issues are only likely to introduce more unhelpful debate that takes away from the point of the original question.

    To fairy lights I would like to say :- people doing 'their own research' would make half the posts on some forums redundant (people often ask advice on behalf of family, friends, work colleagues etc)

    I would however like to thank all of the contributors :T
    There have been some very good posts with lots of 'food for thought' which I have shared with my son (NB:- It was definitely easier sharing this than telling him the pitfalls from just my perspective :o )

    One really good point that has been mentioned is the girl not burning her U.S.A bridges (as it were) in case the relationship were to go boobs up at a later date!

    Also contributors have referred to longer trial periods (I agree the longer the better is also wise and they will no doubt spend more time together whilst pursuing their goal)

    Finally I think there is a possibility of 'Dual nationality' from Italian ancestry & I have suggested the girl to check into that as that seems to allow her not to lose her US citizenship and is going to allow more freedom under European law (I think :o ) to come here & find a job and be a valuable member of our society.

    So a Big Thank you to you all from me :)
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  • Hermia
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    Candyapple wrote: »
    I am guessing your son and his girlfriend are quite young? To be honest with you I don't see it happening and all you can do in the meantime is encourage them both to save / work if they are serious about it.

    Also you mentioned that they had visited each other in their respective countries for a reasonable period of time and seem to get on well - there is a massive difference between being on your best behaviour when your beau comes to stay than one person giving up their friends/family and country and adjusting to life in another one, whether they are messy/clean, moody, what they are like when things get tough/not enough income to buy nice things or go on holiday etc.

    And even if you love each other the cultural differences can be huge. I have an American friend married to a Brit and she said her first year here was the most difficult one of her life. She even found the sizes of our houses difficult to cope with. Property is really cheap in the part of the US she comes from so even people on normal incomes live in big detached houses. She found living in a one-bed terrace and not being able to get away from her husband when she was stressed really hard!
  • JASX - Moving to Australia is not easy. They don't give visas out easily
    Even a WH visa (for under 30s) allows you to work in one job for max 3 months, AND you have to have funds to support yourself. So with no savings this route is unlikely to be manageble.
    And Aus has bumped up all visa fees in recent years...so even applying for a WH visa might be too expensive.
  • JasX
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    JASX - Moving to Australia is not easy. They don't give visas out easily
    Even a WH visa (for under 30s) allows you to work in one job for max 3 months, AND you have to have funds to support yourself. So with no savings this route is unlikely to be manageble.
    And Aus has bumped up all visa fees in recent years...so even applying for a WH visa might be too expensive.

    Yes, as I pointed out this (and generally all other routes) require hard work, saving/planning etc

    Thank you for repeating me.

    OP is after options and this is an option

    If you/the OP are after a spoon fed easy option I think you will struggle to find much that is viable
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