Where to start? sons USA girlfriend wants to move to UK to be with him.

duchy

JasX wrote: »

Yes I seem to be taking a lot of stick for my outrageous original view that persons with autism could, with the right encouragement and support find a niche in which they can achieve something, be productive and make something of themselves.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/news/news-item/5-inspiring-success-stories-people-autism-finding-employment


Thank you Duchy, I'll put you in the box as peachyprice then.

As you two wish to continue your campain evangilising on how people with autism are hopeless, worthless individuals incapable of being encouraged, supported and achieving anything (and vocally abusing anyone who dares take a more positive view) then I'll refer you to a few rebels on the above link in need of similar put downs to those directed at me.

Again I already apologised for valuing disabled people and trying to provide encouragement. You carry on talking them down.

Thank you for demonstrating so clearly and effectively just what people with autism have to deal with from the clueless and self absorbed on a daily basis.

Normal people don't believe me when I explain how stupid some people can be in refusing to understand the daily challenges those with ASD face - I shall be printing out your clueless responses as well as sharing them on social media as a perfect illustration of such people. No doubt you'd think a shetland pony entering the Grand National would be reasonable too. Your idea of valuing people appears to be putting them into scenarios where they can only fail - with no consideration for the consequences to them. You don't work in the Job Centre by any chance do you ?

theoretica

JasX wrote: »

Yes I seem to be taking a lot of stick for my outrageous original view that persons with autism could, with the right encouragement and support find a niche in which they can achieve something, be productive and make something of themselves.

People with autism cover a huge range - as wide as people without autism. And what other people achieved is not always a reasonable aspiration for anyone. (Some people become brain surgeons or Olympic runners but you probably know plenty of people who couldn't reasonably aspire to be either.) I may be misquoting, but someone said once when you know a person with autism you know just that - one person with autism, not everyone.

But what you say about the right support is also very relevant - the level of support some people need in work is beyond a 'reasonable adjustment' for a business though it might be provided within a family. To be fair to you, the OP didn't initially state the level of family support on offer, but she now has.

JasX

theoretica wrote: »

But what you say about the right support is also very relevant - the level of support some people need in work is beyond a 'reasonable adjustment' for a business though it might be provided within a family. To be fair to you, the OP didn't initially state the level of family support on offer, but she now has.

Quite, the OP blandly described their son as 'having a disability' before editing. With no details of any specific disability provided, it seemed an unduly pessimistic 'default position' to regard all people with (unspecified) disabilities as unable to hold down a job.

Print out all you like. Just be sure to start from the beginning and highlight the comments you seem to find massively offensive are part of a discussion started/question asked on the disabled in general (with no specific condition specified) where at no point did the original post kicking off discussion reference autism specifically.

GlasweJen

Italian ancestry would need to be within a couple of generations, does she have a nonna (gran) from Italy or is it further back even than that?

A lot of Americans harp on about how they are of Irish/Scottish/Italian descent when they're 5th or more generation Americans.

When I worked for the tourist board in Edinburgh we'd have "Scottish" people call who'd traced their Scottish roots back to the initial sailings out to the new world apparently. Definitely more American than Scottish but to listen to them youd think they'd took off from Glasgow airport last week.