Where to start? sons USA girlfriend wants to move to UK to be with him.

dancingfairy

For those cynical about things my friend went to america ( I think it was through camp America) , met a guy, got married and they are still happily married. Yes I'm sure people thought they were crazy but its all worked out. I appreciate she was a graduate and went to the us rather than the other way around but just thought it was worth sharing a positive story.
Op- I hope it works out for your son.
Df

duchy

My cousin met an American during her semester at a US uni and married him too. The marriage didn't last but she stayed and worked in the US - mainly so their son could see both parents rather than her go home and his Dad be three thousand miles away from his son and see him infrequently.

MissMoneypenny

clint_S wrote: »

I was talking about Visas and moving over. Since all your Nope are really yeps but doesn't give you citizenship, which I never said it did, you seem to agree with what I said.

None of the visas you recommended were suitable for this person to join her boyfriend, for the reasons I gave. All this information is freely available on the government's site and if you have taken the time to read up on those visas for a few minutes before you recommended them, then you would have realised that. Since 2010 it has become very difficult to get a visa to the UK as all the easy visas were closed down; and it is getting harder all the time as the UK wants to cut the immigration numbers.

Your "all your Nope are really yeps" is wrong. Try reading up on those visas.

The bit about which visas lead to settlement and the changes that are expected, was an extra because if they don't lead to settlement then they need to look for an alternative visa if she wanted to have Indefinate Leave to Remain in the UK. instead of having to return to her own country.

There is no boyfriend/girlfriend visa. Some US citizens join their internet boyfriends in the UK by getting a student visa (Tier 4 visa,) pay international fees and get their student loans from the US to pay for all this. Not a cheap option, no more free NHS for a visa application from April 2015 and no guarantee that they won't have to return home when that visa ends.

uk_american

OP if you're still reading, it might be an idea for you or the GF to look at http://talk.uk-yankee.com/

It's a free site for US people living, working or interested in coming to the UK. Specifically there is a Visa/Citizenship forum with a lot of knowledge and firsthand experience. I do recall reading about similar situations there in the past so hope this helps.

schwam66

Hi hannahp...

I havent read through most of the posts that others have made but i can share my experience and it can hopefully help you. I am an american that moved from the usa to the uk to be with my now wife.....and jesus was it alot of work!!!

I didnt have any sort of qualifications or any schooling beyond highschool, worked odd jobs and nothing to show for it(no savings, nothing). My wife who is british was the same she was in the first year of uni and no savings or anything in that reguards to support either of us on our own.

Thankfully, she had her parents.....if not for them nothing would have been possible....not going to bore you with a long winded write up but the only way your sons girlfirend will beable to come over(unless things have changed in 9 years) is if YOU 'sponsor' her....dont know what the correct wording is..... my wifes parents put money into an account of my now wife and wrote a big long letter in support of my visa application saying i would be staying with them and they would be providing food,water,clothing housing etc.

We went down the route of a marrige visa and loads had to be proved, venue deposit, letter from the church saying a place was booked, she had to get a full time job and left uni....loads of stuff has to be done.....I came over on a 6 month visa and couldnt do anything, literally sat in the house couldnt work anywhere or do anything then within that time had to get married. Which we did no problems. Then you apply for another visa to stay longer, i believe 2.5 years then after that i applied for citizenship.

Your son and his girlfriend will need EVERYTHING chat transcripts, letters, phone records, anything an everything to prove the length they have been 'together' and prove its not just a quick they been talking for 2 months and want to get hitched(if thats even the plan).

Bottom line is, i doubt it will be feasible, its 100% out of the question if you dont have the means and can prove that you can care for this woman, then even if you can you would need to have them get engaged then go that route, they wont just let her in for the fun of it.

Really do hope it works out, its a terrible shame how the system is, i was shocked at all the hoops you have to jump through, i thought the usa and uk relations were tight and it would be easy, boy were we wrong.

any questions or that you have let me know, if was 9 years ago so i am probably not much help now, but if you do have any questions, just ask! all the best.

ViolaLass

schwam66 wrote: »

I came over on a 6 month visa and couldnt do anything, literally sat in the house couldnt work anywhere or do anything then within that time had to get married.

You weren't allowed to volunteer? (Genuine question)

JasX

peachyprice wrote: »

You really do struggle with comprehension don't you. Maybe they don't teach it so well on your fluffy planet.

What has OP written to suggest that her autistic/disabled son is a) going to turn into a hardworking go-getter overnight and b) all his health worries are going to get better in the near future so that he can get a well paid job and won't be a health burden on another country?

Oh, that's right, NOTHING.

Yup, I already apologised for my apparent mistaken belief the disabled can ever be encouraged to achieve anything beyond a life being wholly supported by others. Thank you for your further abuse and you taking extra time to point out the disabled should always be assumed to be incapable of applying themselves in any way or achieving anything. As pointed out I was basing this partly on the OP's son's young(ish) age and hope there might still be some hope of personal development and self application, particularly if given something to work towards.

You seem much better informed on the disabled than I am and hence I will lower my expectations of them and any possible potential or use they may have going forward.

In this case this section of the post above is most relevant:

schwam66 wrote: »

its 100% out of the question if you dont have the means and can prove that you can care for this woman, then even

FBaby

not going to bore you with a long winded write up but the only way your sons girlfirend will beable to come over(unless things have changed in 9 years)

I think that is the point of this thread, things have indeed changed quite a bit since 9 years ago.

duchy

JasX wrote: »

Yup, I already apologised for my apparent mistaken belief the disabled can ever be encouraged to achieve anything beyond a life being wholly supported by others. Thank you for your further abuse and you taking extra time to point out the disabled should always be assumed to be incapable of applying themselves in any way or achieving anything. As pointed out I was basing this partly on the OP's son's young(ish) age and hope there might still be some hope of personal development and self application, particularly if given something to work towards.

You seem much better informed on the disabled than I am and hence I will lower my expectations of them and any possible potential or use they may have going forward.

In this case this section of the post above is most relevant:

Clearly she is as you have no understanding of autism and don't understand there is no "cure". As the parent of a young man on the autistic spectrum who despite a high IQ struggles with even basic social interaction I found your post to be offensive and sadly your attitude is one that makes life more difficult both socially and in employment for young men like mine and the OP's sons with your unrealistic assumptions.

JasX

duchy wrote: »

Clearly she is as you have no understanding of autism and don't understand there is no "cure". As the parent of a young man on the autistic spectrum who despite a high IQ struggles with even basic social interaction I found your post to be offensive and sadly your attitude is one that makes life more difficult both socially and in employment for young men like mine and the OP's sons with your unrealistic assumptions.

Yes I seem to be taking a lot of stick for my outrageous original view that persons with autism could, with the right encouragement and support find a niche in which they can achieve something, be productive and make something of themselves.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/news/news-item/5-inspiring-success-stories-people-autism-finding-employment


Thank you Duchy, I'll put you in the box as peachyprice then.

As you two wish to continue your campain evangilising on how people with autism are hopeless, worthless individuals incapable of being encouraged, supported and achieving anything (and vocally abusing anyone who dares take a more positive view) then I'll refer you to a few rebels on the above link in need of similar put downs to those directed at me.

Again I already apologised for valuing disabled people and trying to provide encouragement. You carry on talking them down.