Where to start? sons USA girlfriend wants to move to UK to be with him.

peachyprice

JasX wrote: »

the Australian working holiday visa?

https://www.seasonworkers.com/workpermitsandVisas/australia/workingholidayvisa.aspx

similar schemes run in the USA/UK etc?

Since you don't seem particularly well informed your inability to think of possible solutions can be regarded to have very little bearing on whether they exist

Seriously? Did you actually read that link?

Let me highlight a few facts on there, as you don't seem to have read it at all.

When you enter Australia, you'll need to show that you have enough money to support yourself during your first few months. Usually, $5,000 AUD (about £2400) is considered enough. To prove this when you arrive, make sure you travel with a certified copy of your bank statement, not one printed from your online account.

OP's son has no savings or any means of earning anything to save

Health and Character
When you apply for your Working Holiday Visa, you'll need to declare that you are in good health

OP's son is too unwell to even work

If you are in good health, without any serious or chronic medical conditions, you will not likely need a medical test to apply for a Working Holiday Visa. However, there are a few exceptions.

Ditto

So before you post rude, sarky comments do read what you are posting, you just make yourself look foolish otherwise.

HappyMJ

peachyprice wrote: »

Seriously? Did you actually read that link?

Let me highlight a few facts on there, as you don't seem to have read it at all.

OP's son has no savings or any means of earning anything to save


OP's son is too unwell to even work


Ditto

So before you post rude, sarky comments do read what you are posting, you just make yourself look foolish otherwise.

I'm Australian myself. Australia is a very expensive country.

I can tell you $5,000 each (total of $10,000) does not go very far at all. It might last about 4 weeks. A double room in a hostel will cost around $120 per night....maybe $100 for a not quite so good hostel. A single bed in an 8 bed dorm might be $40 per person but I'm sure they won't want that.

As in the UK from 1st February they will not be able to rent without a visa lasting longer than the minimum term of the tenancy agreement. If they could rent they'd both need a permanent job, a credit history and/or pay all the rent upfront. Tenancy agreements are for a minimum period of 12 months so on a 12 month WHV this is just not possible.

Lioness_Twinkletoes

hannahp wrote: »

(NB:- For clarity quoted above is the entire post)
How is this or comments like this helpful? :eek:
There is no 'contribution' & there is an undertone!

For the record I take exception to the tone here and I don't see a 'contradiction' this sort of blanket statement goes along the lines of some very unsavoury beliefs held towards disabilities first aired on a public stage in the opening years of the 2nd world war!

Nice going - only 24 posts before you mentioned the war!

hannahp

Lioness_Twinkletoes wrote: »

Nice going - only 24 posts before you mentioned the war!

And your amazingly insightful (non troll like in any way ) contribution to this thread is ? ?

Lioness_Twinkletoes

hannahp wrote: »

And your amazingly insightful (non troll like in any way ) contribution to this thread is ? ?

To point out that you've massively over reacted and have rather distastefully made reference to the war when it was completely unnecessary. I think I have successfully made my point.

JasX

peachyprice wrote: »

Seriously? Did you actually read that link?

Fine have it your way if, the OPs son is completely useless and unwilling to contemplate EVER saving, EVER working, EVER applying themself in any way whatsoever the answer is a very short

"It's never going to happen"

I apologise for suggesting varied options that could be achieved if the OPs son (or girlfriend) were prepared to apply/stretch themselves a bit. Thank you for pointing out this was an error on my part.

I will in future refrain from encouraging people in any way, and as you point out simply assume they are thoroughly feeckless and useless with zero hope of achieving anything from the outset

I withdraw my previous suggestions and information on possible visa routes.

Happy now? :A

hannahp

Lioness_Twinkletoes wrote: »

To point out that you've massively over reacted and have rather distastefully made reference to the war when it was completely unnecessary. I think I have successfully made my point.

You may think you have you made your point and you are of course entitled to your opinion.

However speaking as someone who has spent their entire life in a non judgemental manner took exception to a discriminatory blanket statement which was uncalled and was not based on any knowledge of my son or his support network.

I reacted appropriately to demonstrate the danger that lurks when people are allowed to get away unchallenged with such behaviour!

You may see this area of history and references to it as you wish, but had people stood up to such behaviour at the point in time referenced then things would have been different.

NB:- I am not aware of any school of thought currently that forbids reference to the atrocities or the war.
Perhaps the German lady was wrong when I spoke to her last summer as she referenced and explained that for many years denial was taught in their schools and that this is wrong as people have to know what happened & to never allow it to happen again

Likewise if your comment had been constructive rather than 'headline grabbing' and Troll like, I would perhaps have left it unchallenged and treated it as risible.

We are all entitled to our opinions as long as they are not discriminatory, mine was not & the post that provoked my response was.

Finally to quote you "I think I have successfully made my point"

Lioness_Twinkletoes

hannahp wrote: »

You may think you have you made your point and you are of course entitled to your opinion.

I do and I am :-)

hannahp wrote: »

However speaking as someone who has spent their entire life in a non judgemental manner took exception to a discriminatory blanket statement which was uncalled and was not based on any knowledge of my son or his support network.

That's quite an assertion. However, your reaction was extreme and a tad over protective. That's your right as his mother but it doesn't make it any less an extreme reaction to a straightforward statement.

hannahp wrote: »

I reacted appropriately to demonstrate the danger that lurks when people are allowed to get away unchallenged with such behaviour!

Um, OK. How dare people question something on a forum? How dare they assert that looking at a home and children is indeed a form of work? Quite right you should pull them up immediately. God in heaven above.

hannahp wrote: »

You may see this area of history and references to it as you wish, but had people stood up to such behaviour at the point in time referenced then things would have been different.

Again with the assertion that the comment on this forum and the grotesque acts carried out during WW2 are one and the same! You really are quite, quite deluded. Dangerously so, I would attest.

hannahp wrote: »

NB:- I am not aware of any school of thought currently that forbids reference to the atrocities or the war.
Perhaps the German lady was wrong when I spoke to her last summer as she referenced and explained that for many years denial was taught in their schools and that this is wrong as people have to know what happened & to never allow it to happen again

Any and all wars should be remembered. However, the comment in question has nothing to do with it. Nor do I think the poster in question is closet Nazi for daring to suggest your son can, in fact, work.

hannahp wrote: »

We are all entitled to our opinions as long as they are not discriminatory, mine was not & the post that provoked my response was.

I disagree entirely. I think the fact that you consider it was discriminatory says all I need to know about you.

Have a great day ;-)

hannahp

Lioness_Twinkletoes wrote: »

I disagree entirely. I think the fact that you consider it was discriminatory says all I need to know about you.

Have a great day ;-)

Nice and now you are getting personal, which is not really in the spirit of the forum and I never said or inferred 'how dare' :eek: and I never said they were a 'closet Nazi'! your making your point is getting too angry for me So after this I will not post further in response to you.

In conclusion as this is all a bit silly, I wish to point out the following

Of course I am protective but I think I have spotted a problem with Lioness Twinkletoes dislike of my original statement, he/she seems to have got hold of the wrong end of the stick (as it were)

The original statement that I took exception to was as follows

I agree with some of the other posters - You say your son can run a home and look after a baby which contradicts you saying he can't work as he has a disability.
Running a home and looking after children is hard work!

The bit I take exception to is this "You say your son can run a home and look after a baby which contradicts you saying he can't work as he has a disability."

Just to be clear it assumes that if you have a disability and can't work that you also cannot look after a home or have children!

What part of that is acceptable is beyond me!
I let other comments that might be deemed personal go, but that one was just plain wrong.

Homeownertobe

hannahp wrote: »

The original statement that I took exception to was as follows

The bit I take exception to is this "You say your son can run a home and look after a baby which contradicts you saying he can't work as he has a disability."

Just to be clear it assumes that if you have a disability and can't work that you also cannot look after a home or have children!

What part of that is acceptable is beyond me!
I let other comments that might be deemed personal go, but that one was just plain wrong.

I'll try to explain, but please don't descend into histrionics.

Raising a child and running a home well is incredibly difficult. Just about anyone can drag up some poor mite, in a dirty and unhygienic flea pit (see Jeremy Kyle guests for proof) but to raise a child how he or she deserves to be raised, in a home they deserve is incredible hard. For most people the love they feel for their children gives them the drive to do this.

It is a far more arduous, lengthy and difficult task (both physically and mentally) than a bog standard minimum wage job with minimum responsibly. So if you can do the former, you can certainly do the latter but not the reverse. Not well, anyway.

That is what people are trying to explain to you, but you seem blinded by something that prevents you from seeing this situation as it is - impossible.