Where to start? sons USA girlfriend wants to move to UK to be with him.

fairy_lights

FBaby wrote: »

There are two issues here, the immigration matter, but also the fact that you posts seem to infer that he is considering a -committed- relationship with someone he hardly knows.

I'm glad someone has said it.
Online friends who've visited each other 'a few' times, and now she is planning to emigrate to be with him? :eek:
How old are they both? what will they do if it all goes tits up after she's relocated her whole life to be with him?

JasX

The other option might be for the pair of them to setup in a mutual 3rd country, especially if they are young and both US / UK citizens can get some form of residency + working visa.

Perhaps Australia?

GwylimT

rachy182 wrote: »

I think some posters are trying to get accross that according to you your son will be able to look after a house and a child. Running a house and looking after a child are huge responsibilities that is a demanding job itself and you believe that your son has the skills to do this. What people find contradicary is that if your son can be trusted with a child 24/7 then he should be capable of holding down a job. it mightnotbe what you want to hear but i would be concerned for the safety of a child if your son was the main care giver. if your son got a job then it might make things simplier as he can support both of them.

My wife is disabled, she holds down a fairly demanding full time job, she would be unable to care for our children alone for more than a few hours, nevermind be a stay at home parent.

peachyprice

JasX wrote: »

The other option might be for the pair of them to setup in a mutual 3rd country, especially if they are young and both US / UK citizens can get some form of residency + working visa.

Perhaps Australia?

Except OP's son isn't capable of working.

I can't think of any country that will give him residency when he has no job, can't work, is disabled and has no savings.

BigAunty

I don't understand why this thread has veered into questions of whether the OPs son is capable of a relationship, marriage, co-habitation or parenting because he is not currently capable of employment.

The benefits and health systems in the UK don't make this distinction- there is no expectation there that someone who may struggle in the workplace is automatically barred from forming relationships or having children.

As far as I can see, the barriers to the OPs son with progressing his relationship are mainly around the fact that the couple don't meet visa requirements due to low or no employment income.

A few years ago, this wasn't even an issue in the UK - the rules to enforce financial independence from the state benefit system were only introduced a few years ago with other changes like Citizenship and language tests, too.

thorsoak

She would not be entitled to any NHS care - not even if she were pregnant with his child - how would they fund a pregnancy?

And if there are any on-going problems after her car accident, she would not be covered by the NHS.

melanzana

They should pretend to be migrants and get to Germany quick!

I am so sorry if that offends anyone, but honestly, looking at the posts here it would appear to be impossible for the girl to get into the UK under any circumstances, or for the lad to go to the US either.

At the end of the day, whilst it might seem very cruel to young love and all that, it points to a good immigration policy. Especially in this day and age.

I am sorry for the OP, I know she wants the best for her son, but I don't think it's feasible under present immigration law.

missbiggles1

BigAunty wrote: »

I don't understand why this thread has veered into questions of whether the OPs son is capable of a relationship, marriage, co-habitation or parenting because he is not currently capable of employment.

The benefits and health systems in the UK don't make this distinction- there is no expectation there that someone who may struggle in the workplace is automatically barred from forming relationships or having children.

As far as I can see, the barriers to the OPs son with progressing his relationship are mainly around the fact that the couple don't meet visa requirements due to low or no employment income.

A few years ago, this wasn't even an issue in the UK - the rules to enforce financial independence from the state benefit system were only introduced a few years ago with other changes like Citizenship and language tests, too.

I'm surprised you don't see the connection between the paragraph I've bolded and the two earlier ones.

GwylimT

thorsoak wrote: »

She would not be entitled to any NHS care - not even if she were pregnant with his child - how would they fund a pregnancy?

And if there are any on-going problems after her car accident, she would not be covered by the NHS.

Pregnant women are able to use the NHS.

thorsoak

They are able to use the NHS - but unless she has been given full entitlement to stay, she will be charged.

See http://www.maternityaction.org.uk/wp/advice-2/mums-dads-scenarios/3-women-from-abroad/entitlement-to-free-nhs-maternity-care-for-women-from-abroad/