If we vote for Brexit what happens

PaulW1965

Conrad wrote: »

The UK will need to be seen to be punished to deter others.

I suggest the punishment will be sellable in the EU ("look how the Brits were savaged for leaving, don't even think about it"), but in reality the impacts on us will be minor, the advantages considerable.

Hard to believe that are supposed to be are BFFs.......

PaulW1965

Moby wrote: »

The thing I'm heartened by is the young are predominately remainers......

The young were mainly apathetic and didn't bother to vote.

mayonnaise

Banks Accelerate Contingency Plans as Brexit Gets Real

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-k-financial-firms-beef-up-contingency-plans-ahead-of-brexit-deadline-1475746698

When Japan’s Daiwa Securities Group Inc. heard the British prime minister pledge on Sunday to prioritize controlling immigration in the coming Brexit negotiations, it didn’t wait to act.
The next day, staff accelerated contingency planning for the bank’s London investment banking unit and began to contact other European cities, according to a person familiar with the matter. While Daiwa doesn’t have a definite plan yet, it could involve relocating some operations to the Continent, and recent events are adding to the pressure.

mayonnaise

Mortgagefreeman wrote: »

He won't be happy until the UK's on it's knees. As in the case of our friend from Aberdeen, they can't accept they were wrong

Wrong about what?

Mortgagefreeman

mayonnaise wrote: »

Wrong about what?

Just about everything.

CKhalvashi

setmefree2 wrote: »

I know this won't please Mayonnaise

Why wouldn't it?

DFS are of a business model that can operate completely within the UK on their UK sales.

Many businesses, including mine, aren't.

Moby

Conrad wrote: »

RICS reported this week that rents are set to soar - again the usual demand push imbalance, so a slowing of immigration will feed through in time, which on balance is probably no bad thing.


A relentless frenzy of immigration and building is unsustainable and degrades the environment on many counts. We need to be a little more orderly about things.

IMO you need cross border co-operation to have any chance of 'control'. Do you think brexit makes that more or less likely? I think brexit makes it less likely. The EU has been very poor and slow in dealing with the migrant crisis..granted..that doesn't mean Hungary's solution is the right one. Defragmentation of co-operation will be bound to make matters worse not better. Same with crime and terrorism. France and Germany will punish us. They can't afford not to. This will happen over decades.....little straws in the wind indicating it will be alright are meaningless in this wider context.

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

Same with crime and terrorism. France and Germany will punish us. They can't afford not to. This will happen over decades.....little straws in the wind indicating it will be alright are meaningless in this wider context.

no question of you standing up to the school bully then?
no question of your standing up for your principles?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

CLAPTON wrote: »

school bully

Britain has collectively voted to cut off it's nose to spite it's face.

Fine.

We should all now fully expect the EU to negotiate a separation that protects it's interests first and foremost - just as we expect the UK to negotiate with British interests first and foremost.

European negotiators are obligated to negotiate the best possible deal for the EU, even if that is to the detriment of British interests in the process, and of course vice versa.

The recent Tory conference has indicated Britain is prepared to sacrifice our economic interests in favour of political considerations - you should expect no less of the EU.

Anyone that believed the EU would roll over and beg us to continue trading with them is sadly mistaken - we have far more to lose than they do.

CLAPTON

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Britain has collectively voted to cut off it's nose to spite it's face.

Fine.

We should all now fully expect the EU to negotiate a separation that protects it's interests first and foremost - just as we expect the UK to negotiate with British interests first and foremost.

European negotiators are obligated to negotiate the best possible deal for the EU, even if that is to the detriment of British interests in the process, and of course vice versa.

The recent Tory conference has indicated Britain is prepared to sacrifice our economic interests in favour of political considerations - you should expect no less of the EU.

Anyone that believed the EU would roll over and beg us to continue trading with them is sadly mistaken - we have far more to lose than they do.

in every negotiation both parties seek to gain the best advantage for themselves: that means that both parties will seek the best deal even if that to the detriment of the other (as it obviously will be in 100% of negotiations.)
Do you have an experience of normal business negotitations?

However, you correctly deduce that the EU elite will deliberately damage the economic interests of the people of the EU for purely idealogical political aims: this makes them heroes to you but vile scum to me.
But then we have a different set of moral principles and different moral compasses.