If we vote for Brexit what happens

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

Phones still work, and Frankfurt is a 3 hour flight from London. They'll make it work if they need to be in Frankfurt in order to actually do their business.

That said, Dublin is going to be the easiest option for them.

I don't know if you've spent much time in the City, I have, and face to face social networking (in it's original pre Facebook guise) is pretty much everything.


When you start out as a young buck wanting to make your mark, the first thing you learn is you need a network of contacts. From them you pick-up little booze fuelled snippets of intelligence and over time it is this intelligence that gives you opportunity. On top of this you have access to synergy - all manner of associated trades across the road from you, from insurers to corporate lawyers, accountants to risk analysts.


This applies to everything from fund management (all looking for new angles they can then sell as a USP to investors) to metals trading.



The City is forever evolving and rising to new challenges. Exiting the SM is just another challenge and will present all sorts of opportunity


'Expert' economists will not have factored all this 'soft' stuff into their modelling.

Conrad

The UK will need to be seen to be punished to deter others.

I suggest the punishment will be sellable in the EU ("look how the Brits were savaged for leaving, don't even think about it"), but in reality the impacts on us will be minor, the advantages considerable.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Conrad wrote: »

'Expert' economists will not have factored all this 'soft' stuff into their modelling.

They clearly should take more advice from mortgage salesmen.:rotfl:

Conrad

http://news.efinancialcareers.com/uk-en/257632/oliver-wymans-guide-keeping-banking-job-brexit/

Reports of the City of London’s demise after Brexit may have been greatly exaggerated. This is the key message from the big new report on the impact of Brexit on Britain’s financial services sector.

In the worst case ‘hard Brexit’ scenario, where the UK has no preferential access to EU financial markets and is operating on WTO rules only, 31,000 to 35,000 jobs could be directly at risk and that a further 34,000 to 40,000 jobs could disappear from London

The fact is that 35,000 City jobs would be only about 0.1% of the 31.6 million jobs in the UK

economy, https://iea.org.uk/publications/research/the-eu-jobs-myth-0

“The UK labour market is incredibly dynamic, and would adapt quickly to changed relationships with the EU. Prior to the financial crisis, the UK saw on average 4 million jobs created and 3.7 million jobs lost each year
35,000 corresponds to less than one week of that “churn”.

Conrad

If UK GDP grew by just 0.7% in Q3 2016 that would still be a greater increase than the one-off “boost” promised if we stayed in the EU and TTIP came into effect

Moby

daveyjp wrote: »

The whole 'Britannia is coming back' is simply bizarre and smacks of desperation by the Telegraph to get anything to fill the front page. They are obsessessed and appear to be running a campaign, rather than report any news.

The latest is they will build a replica! Who would build a replica of a yacht which was retired because it was no longer fit for purpose?

Agreed it is so 19th century and comes across as a bit desperate.

Moby

Conrad wrote: »

I was in Asia recently, people cant get enough of British pomp and circumstance and the whole James Bond / Royals / F1 / Premiership / soft power thang.


The pessimists are down on everything, they told us endlessly before each Olympics it will fail, staudiums wont be ready, that the 02 was a white elephant no one would use, and on and on it goes.

The people that changed the British journey were embracers of change and thinking big, not the miserable s)0ds that told us to stay the same.


A new boat would be the perfect calling card for UK plc, lets make the most of what we are and stop being so embarrassed and frightened.

Rule Britannia.....Britannna rules the waves.........Britons never never will be slaves.....just increasingly poor it seems as time passes:rotfl:
Geeeez we have years of 'what form of Brexit will it be' crap to put up with and the interested parties will spin whatever emerges to fit with their 'I told you so' world view. The thing I'm heartened by is the young are predominately remainers......the future will be theirs.....it's sad the legacy they are being left by the boomers will be characterised by selfish, narrow minded little Englanderism.....I doubt Scotland will accept a 'hard brexit'.....so think of it this way.....soon the writ of Britannia may extend no further than Northumberland.......but at least it will be our land and idealogically pure! Apparently we're even going to get our navy blue passports back....wooooppppeee! Can't wait to flash it around to the Germans as we queue up for the buffet breakfast in resorts all over the world.

Conrad

Moby wrote: »

The thing I'm heartened by is the young are predominately remainers......


the boomers will be characterised by selfish, narrow minded little Englanderism

Of course the young are remainers - I have 2 teen Sons and they told us ALL the teachers were remainers and that only the downsides of Brexit were ever discussed. Talk about an abuse of position.


I see youngsters of Bremoaner parents (we are having dinner with our good Bremaoners neighbours Saturday), saying things based on vile misinformation such as that they 'wont be able to travel Europe now', lol. Amazed so many Kiwi's and others imagine this 'impossible' feat, lol.


When you talk to these kids and gently get them to think about what the upsides of Brexit will be, it's as if they've for the first time been introduced to Darwinian natural selection theory having had a diet of Jehovah from their parents.


"Oh, so you need a VISA to holiday in Turkey, but it's only £10 and no hassle at all, and the same will apply to EU travel, oh, my (bitter) parents never mentioned this"




As for small minded, well I'd say that label belongs to those terrified of change and rising to new challenges

mayonnaise

Shakethedisease wrote: »

This is terrifying stuff from the Tories today. Sent a shiver down my spine reading it I have to tell you. Really dark and horrible connotations with history. Scotland wants nothing to do with this sort of malarkey thankfully.

'For the state must draw a sharp line of distinction between those who, as members of the nation, are the foundation and support of its existence and greatness, and those who are domiciled in the state, simply as earners of their livelihood there.' “Very important that firms declare how much of their workforce is foreign because they're just domiciled in this state simply as earners of their livelihood.
“They're not members of the nation, they're not members of the foundation and the support of the nation's existence and greatness."
“You have to have a sharp line of distinction between those who are members of the nation and those who are just domiciled here as earners of their livelihoods.”

He then said: “No, that wasn't from Amber Rudd's speech yesterday, I'm really sorry, that's from Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/amber-rudd-conservative-party-conerence-hitler-mein-kampf-james-obrien-a7347251.html

posh*spice

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

I see nothing wrong in showing the percentage of foreign employees in a particular company.

"British Jobs for British Workers" Gordon Brown

It's nothing new.

The Americans would never complain about a slogan "American Jobs for American Workers".

Mayonnaise has been brain washed by the EU.