If we vote for Brexit what happens

Thrugelmir

posh*spice wrote: »

The Americans would never complain about a slogan "American Jobs for American Workers".

Follow the US Presidential campaign and it's a key issue for both sides. That and losing jobs to Asia.

posh*spice

gfplux wrote: »

Sadly for Britain business can not wait. Decisions are being made every day that will hurt Britain. Indecision and uncertainty are the enemy of business and Britain.

But you are forgetting about all the positive things that are happening to the economy and only concentrating on the negative. Oil has fallen from $150 dollars to less than $50 dollars and that is a massive massive boost - plus, thanks to Osborne, we are nearing a sensible place with regard to the deficit so the May government can think about some fiscal spending. Look hoiw much has been achieved.



For the fiscal year ending in March 2017 - which is the “current budget deficit” is estimated to be £19.1 billion.

There is plenty to be positive about. Not everything to do with the economy is about trade with the EU.

ruggedtoast

And now the UKIP leader hopeful is in hospital after being beaten up by a colleague at an MEP meeting.

What lovely people.

shaggydoo

ruggedtoast wrote: »

And now the UKIP leader hopeful is in hospital after being beaten up by a colleague at an MEP meeting.

What lovely people.

It's not just UKIP voters however. Diane James stood down after an incident in Waterloo station when she was abused and spat at for being UKIP's leader. And The Jewish Labour MP Ruth Smeeth has a bodyguard because of Labour supporters.

...And there is also Jo Cox....

shaggydoo

UKIP leadership hopeful Steven Woolfe was taken to hospital following an altercation at a meeting of party MEPs, interim leader Nigel Farage has said.
In a statement he said Mr Woolfe had "subsequently collapsed" and his "condition is serious".
Mr Woolfe, MEP for the North West, was taken to hospital in Strasbourg for tests.
Mr Woolfe announced on Wednesday he will stand for the party's leadership after Diane James stepped down.
In his statement, Mr Farage said: "I deeply regret that following an altercation that took place at a meeting of UKIP MEPs this morning that Steven Woolfe subsequently collapsed and was taken to hospital. His condition is serious."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37572377

Moby

Conrad wrote: »

Of course the young are remainers - I have 2 teen Sons and they told us ALL the teachers were remainers and that only the downsides of Brexit were ever discussed. Talk about an abuse of position.


I see youngsters of Bremoaner parents (we are having dinner with our good Bremaoners neighbours Saturday), saying things based on vile misinformation such as that they 'wont be able to travel Europe now', lol. Amazed so many Kiwi's and others imagine this 'impossible' feat, lol.


When you talk to these kids and gently get them to think about what the upsides of Brexit will be, it's as if they've for the first time been introduced to Darwinian natural selection theory having had a diet of Jehovah from their parents.


"Oh, so you need a VISA to holiday in Turkey, but it's only £10 and no hassle at all, and the same will apply to EU travel, oh, my (bitter) parents never mentioned this"




As for small minded, well I'd say that label belongs to those terrified of change and rising to new challenges

Our neighbours have two sons and they voted brexit because they think they will now be able to buy them properties in London...once all the foreigners leave and stop inflating the prices. I kept quiet...no point in falling out with the neighbours.

setmefree2

Angela Merkel urges German firms to back tough stance in Brexit talks

Chancellor appeals to business leaders to support principle of full single market access only in exchange for free movement

Angela Merkel has significantly stiffened her rhetoric on Brexit, telling an audience of German business leaders that any exception to the EU’s single market rules would represent “a systemic challenge for the entire European Union”.

The German chancellor’s remarks reflect an apparent toughening of positions in European capitals after Theresa May announced on Sunday that the UK would begin formal divorce talks by the end of March and indicated it was heading for a “hard Brexit”.


Merkel appealed to German firms to show a united front with EU governments in negotiations over Britain’s departure from the bloc, urging them to support the principle of “full access to the single market only in exchange for signing up to the four freedoms”.



If any one country was allowed an exception, she said, “you can imagine how all countries will put put conditions on free movement with other countries. And that would create an extremely difficult situation.”


The applause for Merkel’s comments put a further question mark over the argument of British pro-Brexit politicians that German businesses will inevitably pressure their government to preserve their trade links with the UK and resist tariffs.


Markus Kerber, the leader of Germany’s largest industry group, said last week that trade, investments and single market solidarity with the rest of the EU were more important than the volume of business German companies do with Britain.

“We cannot grant any special treatment even before negotiations. Then we would have 27 special agreements tomorrow. Then there won’t be a European Union any more,” he said. “We have to negotiate really hard, we have to remain tough.”
The EU 27 would take four or five weeks to confirm a common position on Brexit once Britain had triggered article 50, Muscat said, after which day-to-day talks would be handled by the European commission’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, and his German deputy, Sabine Weyand.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/05/angela-merkel-takes-significantly-tougher-brexit-stance

Thrugelmir

Merkel is playing to the home audience. Rating at an all time low. Election next year.

mayonnaise

ruggedtoast wrote: »

And now the UKIP leader hopeful is in hospital after being beaten up by a colleague at an MEP meeting.

What lovely people.

I hope he'll be okay, and I'm sure he will be receive the best possible care as a foreigner in a French hospital.

setmefree2

I know it's The Express but these figures are eye watering

astonishingly, according to the Office of Budget responsibility figures, the UK will only get a rebate of £30bn meaning £61bn will be sent to Europe while Britain tries to negotiate its exit

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/718341/UK-taxpayers-91-billion-to-EU-as-Brexit-takes-Government-years-to-implement