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If we vote for Brexit what happens
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Article in the FT today from the Chinese ambassador to the UK regarding the UK's decision to reconsider Hinkley Point. Provides a preview of what negotiating with China over a trade deal might look like.
In summary, the message is 'accept our terms - or else'. What was that again about taking back control?Britain takes pride in being a country that is open to foreign investors. Rightly so. It is exactly because of such openness that China has become the UK’s second-largest non-European trading partner. Britain is one of the key destinations for Chinese companies seeking to invest overseas. Over the past five years, such companies have invested more in the UK than in Germany, France and Italy combined.
An important reason why this has been possible is that both China and the UK have consistently respected and trusted each other. If Britain’s openness is a condition for bilateral co-operation, then mutual trust is the very foundation on which this is built.
Right now, the China-UK relationship is at a crucial historical juncture. Mutual trust should be treasured even more. I hope the UK will keep its door open to China and that the British government will continue to support Hinkley Point — and come to a decision as soon as possible so that the project can proceed smoothly.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b8bc62dc-5d74-11e6-bb77-a121aa8abd95.html0 -
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mayonnaise wrote: »BREXIT BETTING: Bookmakers have lost faith in Article 50 ever being triggered
http://uk.businessinsider.com/when-will-article-50-be-triggered-2016
Good news, I'm sure you all agree.
Haven't we discussed this before. The odds are a reflection of the money. Do people who gamble know more than anyone else. Sometimes but not in this case.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
I think the opposite. If you ran the referendum again, it'd be remain. This needs to be pushed through knowing the majority now don't want it.
Actually Joe, given the absolute confusion (in all 28 Country's) this result has caused, speaking as an EU supporter I am not sure I want the disruptive UK back at the EU table.
Now I have got used to the UK leaving I am not absolutely sure which way I would vote, if there is a next time.
Hopefully I won't have to decide as a 2nd referendum is a road to hell.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
mayonnaise wrote: »Looking at YouGov's record, we can assume a majority for Remain then.
You can dream of Referendum 2 if you like, but it won't happen.
75% of rank and file conservative members want Brexit. If May doesn't deliver, she won't be PM for very long.If I don't reply to your post,
you're probably on my ignore list.0 -
Shakethedisease wrote: »I'm not sure. It might be politically very dangerous for both the Tories and Labour to go back on any Brexit.You can dream of Referendum 2 if you like, but it won't happen.
We'll probably end up with a Norway-lite option with some tinkering on migrant benefits to keep the bigots happy, but with continuing single market access and adhering to the the basic 4 freedoms of the EU.Don't blame me, I voted Remain.0 -
mayonnaise wrote: »Equally, it would be political suicide for the Tories to preside over a collapsing economy if they push for 'hard' brexit.
I agree, won't happen, nor do I dream of one.
We'll probably end up with a Norway-lite option with some tinkering on migrant benefits to keep the bigots happy, but with continuing single market access and adhering to the the basic 4 freedoms of the EU.
presumably you are the other remainers must be over the moon with the 4 'freedoms' in the bag : no need to carp on any more.0 -
presumably you are the other remainers must be over the moon with the 4 'freedoms' in the bag : no need to carp on any more.
Retaining these four freedoms is necessary but not sufficient.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
gadgetmind wrote: »Retaining these four freedoms is necessary but not sufficient.
'necessary but not sufficient ' for what ? for denying the democratic wishes of the voters0 -
mayonnaise wrote: »BREXIT BETTING: Bookmakers have lost faith in Article 50 ever being triggered
Because they all did so well calling the result0
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