If we vote for Brexit what happens

System

mwpt wrote: »

Besides, I am willing to bet that you never noticed the size of your vacuum cleaner motor until the daily mail started telling you about it.

I've yet to see a single person have a valid reason to justify being bothered about the EU making laws. It's just the most politically correct smokescreen available for voting leave. Anyone that says it can be caught out immediately by asking what law they don't like, case in point here.

michaels

mwpt wrote: »

Part of a wider energy efficiency drive. People hate being told what to do but sometimes, just sometimes, experts are correct. Do you rant about the low emissions zones that the UK imposes?

Besides, I am willing to bet that you never noticed the size of your vacuum cleaner motor until the daily mail started telling you about it.

So was the rule about efficiency, must vacuums be efficient as well as small motored? Or is it just that they have to have small motors? Perhaps small motors are less efficient and it actually takes more energy overall because you have to hoover for longer to acheive the same level of cleanliness?

Grenage

I would expect any changes to be gradual, rather than within two weeks of the referendum; it's not like the forex market.

I think we'll see gradual changes over the coming two or three years.

mwpt

michaels wrote: »

So was the rule about efficiency, must vacuums be efficient as well as small motored? Or is it just that they have to have small motors? Perhaps small motors are less efficient and it actually takes more energy overall because you have to hoover for longer to acheive the same level of cleanliness?

I don't know. I trust that due diligence has been done because life is too short for me to worry about every single trivial law that has negligible impact on my life. I can buy fridges and other appliances with energy efficiency ratings and I consider this a good thing.

Unless the media had told you all this was happening, 95% of people wouldn't have noticed.

indianabones

I have a huge search area in North and West Birmingham. From Handsworth Wood through Great Barr and up as far as Central Walsall. It touches Willenhall and West Brom as well. My criteria has all been the same 160k-230k semis, detached and bungalows.

I've seen a change. There are fewer houses coming up. It's now 2 weeks since Brexit referendum. Houses are still selling, but more are coming back on the market (most likely chains breaking) than in the previous 2 years I've been viewing.

Conrad

For years critics of the UK economy have warned it’s far too reliant on HPI, consumption and features an unsettling trade imbalance.

A cheaper pound is great for exports and those additional earnings will easily cover any increase in imported materials that produce those exports. Furthermore, British firms will move over to sourcing British product given imports are more costly.

The IMF for some time has said the pound was over valued.

The YEN has risen having a negative impact on their exports and stock market.

The Dollar is up to 20% over valued and America has a $20 trillion Govt debt, and protectionist Presidents en-route, one of whom is promising to raise corporate and other taxes and regulations. Not somewhere I’d invest just now.

Italian Banking looking like it requires a massive bailout. Deflation in Southern Europe and a mass of Chinese over-production about to make deflation woes worse.

A falling pound is PRECISELY what we need in this environment.

Conrad

Joeskeppi wrote: »

I've yet to see a single person have a valid reason to justify being bothered about the EU making laws.

All those prospering independent nations out there manage to make their own laws without being overseen by daft old Brussels bureaucrats.


The whole world is feeling deflationary pressure, this will further impact the lumbering EU, and their constituent nations have no tailored currency to devalue.


Your misty eyed view of the EU is just hilarious, soon you will understand that us grasping the nettle has been the right thing to do

padington

Conrad wrote: »

For years critics of the UK economy have warned it’s far too reliant on HPI, consumption and features an unsettling trade imbalance.

A cheaper pound is great for exports and those additional earnings will easily cover any increase in imported materials that produce those exports. Furthermore, British firms will move over to sourcing British product given imports are more costly.

The IMF for some time has said the pound was over valued.

The YEN has risen having a negative impact on their exports and stock market.

The Dollar is up to 20% over valued and America has a $20 trillion Govt debt, and protectionist Presidents en-route, one of whom is promising to raise corporate and other taxes and regulations. Not somewhere I’d invest just now.

Italian Banking looking like it requires a massive bailout. Deflation in Southern Europe and a mass of Chinese over-production about to make deflation woes worse.

A falling pound is PRECISELY what we need in this environment.

We could have devalued the pound without ruining brand UK. Saying this is good news is idiotic.

CLAPTON

mwpt wrote: »

I don't know. I trust that due diligence has been done because life is too short for me to worry about every single trivial law that has negligible impact on my life. I can buy fridges and other appliances with energy efficiency ratings and I consider this a good thing.

Unless the media had told you all this was happening, 95% of people wouldn't have noticed.

I'm sure due diligence was at the same high standard that we have come to expect from the EU vehicle miles per gallon ratings and vehicle toxic emmissions.

Always remember that standards and regulations have always been there to help the cartel and to exclude new entrants although always claimed to be there to 'protect' the stupid consumer from themselves. Of course many are useful and even essential but the general rules still applies.

System

Conrad wrote: »

All those prospering independent nations out there manage to make their own laws without being overseen by daft old Brussels bureaucrats.

Your misty eyed view of the EU is just hilarious, soon you will understand that us grasping the nettle has been the right thing to do

I don't think I have a misty eyed view, I'm not even talking about whether EU in/out is good or bad right now. I'm just calling out this "waaah EU laws" nonsense as I see it.