If we vote for Brexit what happens

wotsthat

baza52 wrote: »

how patronising.
Your only 30 so you have no idea about life.
It was common for families to have a lot more kids than now and they worked hard often on 1 wage to support them.
What generation do you think bringing up kids for free made it possible?

Perhaps in years to come you will look back to this day and say what a great move brexit was.

Baza I bet the happiest times of your life (I can't imagine you happy mind) were when your kids were young. Same for everyone - not unique to the seventies or even the forties when you you started a family.

Samsonite1

lisyloo wrote: »

In what way do you think it's better now?
We went to uni for fee, came out with no debts.
Walked into a good job with prospects - had a choice in fact.
We bought a 3 bed house for 2.3 times joint salary straight out of uni.

I guess healthcare is more advanced and travel is easier if you have money.

I wouldn't swap with today's young.



How did you get to that conclusion?

Simply based on what is being presented by Brixiteers - cannot account for their accuracy.

baza52

wotsthat wrote: »

Baza I bet the happiest times of your life (I can't imagine you happy mind) were when your kids were young. Same for everyone - not unique to the seventies or even the forties when you you started a family.

yes that's correct.
Its also correct that the EU and all its bad points were also not around at that time.

What we had then was in no way comparable to the current EU we have (or had) today.

What makes you think I am not happy?
The remain supporters are the ones complaining are they not.

baza52

Samsonite1 wrote: »

And the EC before that? My secondary school education, university and entire career have been as a member of the EU. FACT as you like to shout in your posts. Smoke it.

how can you compare the EC that the public voted to join to the EU that exists today?
Chalk and cheese

Samsonite1

baza52 wrote: »

how can you compare the EC that the public voted to join to the EU that exists today?
Chalk and cheese

You seem very angry. I will concede that the way the EU has conducted itself since the referendum result is hardly a good advertisement.

baza52

Samsonite1 wrote: »

Simply based on what is being presented by Brixiteers - cannot account for their accuracy.

so you are basing your opinions on what people that voted out say.
Are you not capable of forming your own opinion?

Show me some hard facts on why leaving was a bad move.
Not speculation or short term statistics.
Real hard provable facts.

Samsonite1

baza52 wrote: »

so you are basing your opinions on what people that voted out say.
Are you not capable of forming your own opinion?

Show me some hard facts on why leaving was a bad move.
Not speculation or short term statistics.
Real hard provable facts.

In this thread I am talking about your own comments actually. You appear to be proving yourself wrong at every turn.

Why should I provide hard facts? The biggest problem is that there are zero hard facts about why leaving is good. So far it is not going well. If we are lucky we may get back to where we were in a decade or two.

Give me some hard facts on how things are better please. Not "ideals" or "maybes". Cheers.

baza52

Samsonite1 wrote: »

You seem very angry. I will concede that the way the EU has conducted itself since the referendum result is hardly a good advertisement.

I'm not angry at all.
You on the other hand......

Everything you stand for is based on speculation and guesswork.
Only time will tell and only then will you have the right to tell everyone that voted out they were wrong.
Until that time you come across as a sore loser.

cells

lisyloo wrote: »

In what way do you think it's better now?
We went to uni for fee, came out with no debts.
Walked into a good job with prospects - had a choice in fact.
We bought a 3 bed house for 2.3 times joint salary straight out of uni.

I guess healthcare is more advanced and travel is easier if you have money.

I wouldn't swap with today's young.

How did you get to that conclusion?

information is close to free a university level education can be had on the net with lots of universities putting up their lectures for free. if you want the paper degree to go with it you can always opt for a much more affordable university of london distance degree which imo is probably worth more than 85% of university institutions degrees. So you have options and thats the important part. in the old days university may have been tuition free but far fewer people actually were able to make use of it

There are plenty of good high paying jobs on offer for the young ones in the right sectors. I know a handful not long after university on the £250k plus mark before other perks like shares and bonuses.

London and SE house prices are up but inheritances are now higher than ever to compensate for a lot of that difference

Samsonite1

baza52 wrote: »

I'm not angry at all.
You on the other hand......

Everything you stand for is based on speculation and guesswork.
Only time will tell and only then will you have the right to tell everyone that voted out they were wrong.
Until that time you come across as a sore loser.

Erm, basically the other way around. I am not bothered about leaving or remaining actually. But there is only "guesswork and speculation" on why leaving is better. Nobody has presented a single fact about how things are or will be better. That is the main problem I have. Would be over the moon if things got better after leaving.