If we vote for Brexit what happens

Rinoa

Generali wrote: »

I think you can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep.

The logic of that statement would suggest that, as antisemitic Ken Livingstone and pseudo terrorist Gerry Adams support Remain, then you too have such leanings.

TrickyTree83

Remain need to get away from drawing parallels between other leave voters and the far right. Does the argument no good but does come across as a self righteous piety.

Yolina

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Remain need to get away from drawing parallels between other leave voters and the far right. Does the argument no good but does come across as a self righteous piety.

No but yeah but no... (or is it yeah but no but yeah?)

"One of the biggest single donors of Vote Leave has been identified as a former British National party member on a leaked list, it has emerged.
Gladys Bramall, 87, from the West Midlands, has given the campaign £600,000, according to Electoral Commission records released on Tuesday. "

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/21/vote-leave-gets-big-donation-from-gladys-bramall-former-bnp-member-leaked-list

TrickyTree83

Yolina wrote: »

"One of the biggest single donors of Vote Leave has been identified as a former British National party member on a leaked list, it has emerged.
Gladys Bramall, 87, from the West Midlands, has given the campaign £600,000, according to Electoral Commission records released on Tuesday. "

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/21/vote-leave-gets-big-donation-from-gladys-bramall-former-bnp-member-leaked-list

"The link was first reported by BuzzFeed News, and Ms Bramall told the website that she must have been signed up to the far-right group by her husband – who is also named on the leaked list.

She nonetheless confirmed her membership, saying: “My husband joined, he obviously enrolled me at the same time. It wasn’t with my knowledge.”"

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-vote-leave-donor-bnp-brexit-vote-polls-gladys-bramall-a7093616.html

Does that bit not count because it doesn't fit the narrative Remain want to portray?

Beginning to feel like the Remain side are like the modern day gestapo.

"You agree with their views, you're a sympathiser!"

Rinoa

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Remain need to get away from drawing parallels between other leave voters and the far right. Does the argument no good but does come across as a self righteous piety.

Indeed. Intellectual snobbery from lots of well off board remainers who happily buy houses double or triple the average price to live in neighbourhoods far away from the plebs and, coincidently, most immigrants.

ruggedtoast

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

Remain need to get away from drawing parallels between other leave voters and the far right. Does the argument no good but does come across as a self righteous piety.

Leave needs to stop parading its mucky underbelly around then. Or find some way of disassociating itself with groups that 99.9% all undecided voters find to be odious.

The fact is that UKIPs ranting anti immigration prejudice might play very well to the Alf Garnett "I'm not a racialist but..." but a great many people find it, and its supporters very distasteful.

They however seem to think they are the voice of the silent majority, even if the silent majority doesn't agree with them.

Which is how fascism gets started.

ruggedtoast

Rinoa wrote: »

The logic of that statement would suggest that, as antisemitic Ken Livingstone and pseudo terrorist Gerry Adams support Remain, then you too have such leanings.

I don't know what the Islamic State's view is of the European Union (maybe they have issued an internal memo), but when every single card carrying racist in the United Kingdom is going to be lining up to vote Leave on Thursday, them inevitably Leave has an image problem.

Rinoa

Markus Kerber, head of the BDI (Germany’s answer to the CBI), is calling on his country to not risk damaging trade with punitive post-Brexit tariffs.

“Imposing trade barriers, imposing protectionist measures between our two countries – or between the two political centres, the European Union on the one hand and the UK on the other – would be a very, very foolish thing in the 21st century. The BDI would urge politicians on both sides to come up with a trade regime that enables us to uphold and maintain the levels of trade we have”

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I don't know what the Islamic State's view is of the European Union (maybe they have issued an internal memo), but when every single card carrying racist in the United Kingdom is going to be lining up to vote Leave on Thursday, them inevitably Leave has an image problem.

rugged position on immigration
no pasaran


there are relavetively few card carring racist in the UK
but plenty of card carriers that support the IRA loving Corbyn's fraction

TrickyTree83

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Leave needs to stop parading its mucky underbelly around then. Or find some way of disassociating itself with groups that 99.9% all undecided voters find to be odious.

The fact is that UKIPs ranting anti immigration prejudice might play very well to the Alf Garnett "I'm not a racialist but..." but a great many people find it, and its supporters very distasteful.

They however seem to think they are the voice of the silent majority, even if the silent majority doesn't agree with them.

Which is how fascism gets started.

Vote Leave has been disassociating themselves from this element. Regardless this element of society still has a democratic vote. I don't agree with their views but I respect the laws of this country in that they have the right to hold those views and a right to campaign for those views. Is that not a democratic right for these people?

The threats and the violence will be dealt with by police, as they should be.