If we vote for Brexit what happens

ruggedtoast

Was at a family get to together yesterday day. All the male boomers ended up in the kitchen ranting about Brexit and reminiscing about how marvellous it was pre the EU.

3 day weeks. Cathy Come Home levels of poverty. Nothing on the supermarket shelves apart from Fray Bentos.

Thats what they want us to return to.

CLAPTON

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Was at a family get to together yesterday day. All the male boomers ended up in the kitchen ranting about Brexit and reminiscing about how marvellous it was pre the EU.

3 day weeks. Cathy Come Home levels of poverty. Nothing on the supermarket shelves apart from Fray Bentos.

Thats what they want us to return to.

Personally, I don't give the EU the credit for crushing the Trotiskite unions who wanted to establish a communistic state : but I'm glad you do.

michaels

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Was at a family get to together yesterday day. All the male boomers ended up in the kitchen ranting about Brexit and reminiscing about how marvellous it was pre the EU.

3 day weeks. Cathy Come Home levels of poverty. Nothing on the supermarket shelves apart from Fray Bentos.

Thats what they want us to return to.

Stop pulling your punches, our esteemed prime minister has now told us that brexit is an existential threat to the uk.

Bit silly of him to allow us a referendum really...

BACKFRMTHEEDGE

Generali wrote: »

The single problem that Brexit has always faced is that Brexit = Reactionary Nutter. This sad incident will underline that in many people's minds.

That - and the Farrage poster.

The Farrage Poster was another reminder of how unsavory the British right are.

CLAPTON

BACKFRMTHEEDGE wrote: »

That - and the Farrage poster.

The Farrage Poster was another reminder of how unsavory the British right are.

the far right are an unsavory bunch but then so are the left that support the IRA, mass murder in China/Soviet empire, the madman in Venezuela and those that preach hatred for all Tories and celebrated the death of Thatcher.
However, they doesn't determine the wrongs and rights of having a better democracy, better housing and better access to public services

Thrugelmir

posh*spice wrote: »

You think?

Google UKIP and Nazis

Why do you continually drag this point up? I'm not a UKIP supporter. But I still find it in extremely bad taste.

mwpt

CLAPTON wrote: »

the far right are an unsavory bunch but then so are the left that support the IRA, mass murder in China/Soviet empire, the madman in Venezuela and those that preach hatred for all Tories and celebrated the death of Thatcher.
However, they doesn't determine the wrongs and rights of having a better democracy, better housing and better access to public services

Better public services are paid for by taxes. 2008 GFC hit most countries pretty severely and particularly the UK with her large financial services industry. We now have a large budget deficit and have had to cut public services to deal with the fall out of that recession.

I don't think the way to increase public services is to push your country towards another recession and lower economic output and tax take for the medium term future. I don't think that encouraging business to move out of the UK to mainland Europe is a good thing either.

I take your point that in larger states individual people feel that there is less democracy. For example, I never voted for the Tories yet I have them making decisions for me. I have unelected council planners restricting my ability to build onto my house or construct a liveable annex in my garden. This doesn't feel very democratic to me as I never voted for such laws.

I can very honestly say that I don't know much about EU laws and I had never considered that bendy bananas were a problem until the dailymail told me it was. I think if most people are honest with themselves they'll realise that up until recently they didn't have much strong feeling on EU laws in their daily lives either.

Thrugelmir

Generali wrote: »

The single problem that Brexit has always faced is that Brexit = Reactionary Nutter. This sad incident will underline that in many people's minds.

Yesterday I learnt asylum seekers were attempting to radicalise at risk children in Bristol. Many factors are at play.

CLAPTON

mwpt wrote: »

Better public services are paid for by taxes. 2008 GFC hit most countries pretty severely and particularly the UK with her large financial services industry. We now have a large budget deficit and have had to cut public services to deal with the fall out of that recession.

The need for more housing, transport, NHS resources is obviously dependent upon population and so immigration has caused some of the need.
Obviously i agree that this should be funded by taxation:
so the issue a rises, why aren't the 'remain ' camp open and honest and say we need to increase taxation to fund the shortfall in services and that much of this shortfall is due to immigration.

I don't think the way to increase public services is to push your country towards another recession and lower economic output and tax take for the medium term future. I don't think that encouraging business to move out of the UK to mainland Europe is a good thing either.

obviously there will be no recession if we brexit just as there will be no WW3 or that europe will collapse.

I take your point that in larger states individual people feel that there is less democracy. For example, I never voted for the Tories yet I have them making decisions for me. I have unelected council planners restricting my ability to build onto my house or construct a liveable annex in my garden. This doesn't feel very democratic to me as I never voted for such laws.

Planners do what the elected councillors tell them to do.

I can very honestly say that I don't know much about EU laws and I had never considered that bendy bananas were a problem until the dailymail told me it was. I think if most people are honest with themselves they'll realise that up until recently they didn't have much strong feeling on EU laws in their daily lives either.

well, if you don't know much about them I suppose you won't really have a rational view either way.

Generali

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Yesterday I learnt asylum seekers were attempting to radicalise at risk children in Bristol. Many factors are at play.

Sorry fella, I'm not sure I see the connection with Brexit. I'm probably being thick.