If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

Thank you Rinoa for making the case for stay. You are quite right to point out the chaos that Brexit will bring just in the Government. Have you thought how this chaos will effect you, me and the rest of the world?

By the way your last paragraph about the EU uncertainties....correct but that is the known, known. As Donald Rumsfeld said,
"There are Known knowns
There are things we know,
We also know there are Known unknowns."

I say...

Beware the Unknown knowns

one might surmise that exactly the same could be said about 'remain'

Rinoa

gfplux wrote: »

Thank you Rinoa for making the case for stay. You are quite right to point out the chaos that Brexit will bring just in the Government. Have you thought how this chaos will effect you, me and the rest of the world?

By the way your last paragraph about the EU uncertainties....correct but that is the known, known. As Donald Rumsfeld said,
"There are Known knowns
There are things we know,
We also know there are Known unknowns."

I say...

Beware the Unknown knowns

Our exports to the EU on WTO terms will attract an average tariff of 4%.

Between 2013 and 2015 the Euro increased in value by 20% with zero impact on our economic performance. You think 4% is going to make that much difference?

Generali kindly informed us that the Swiss GDP per capita is around £77,000. Who needs the EU?

gfplux

Rinoa wrote: »

Our exports to the EU on WTO terms will attract an average tariff of 4%.

Between 2013 and 2015 the Euro increased in value by 20% with zero impact on our economic performance. You think 4% is going to make that much difference?

Generali kindly informed us that the Swiss GDP per capita is around £77,000. Who needs the EU?

Thank you Rinoa

Your first point...what in heavens name is that gobble gook about

Your second point.... Oh!!!! In the last 5 years the Pound has traded against the Euro between a low of €1.105 and a high €1.441 In that time people have died and been born, what is your point?

Your third point... Oh dear, don't you realise that the Swiss GDP has as much to do with the Future prosperity of the UK Outside the EU as you knowing the winner of YESTERDAYS 3 o'clock at Kempton Races

Sorry to be blunt, but really!

Rinoa

gfplux wrote: »

In the last 5 years the Pound has traded against the Euro between a low of €1.105 and a high €1.441 In that time people have died and been born, what is your point?

You make my point very well.

If the £/euro rate has fluctuated 35% with no loss of economic performance, why do you believe 4% average WTO tariffs after Brexit will be such a problem?

Moby

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/05/john-major-nhs-risk-brexit-pythons-johnson-and-gove
Major comes out fighting!

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/05/john-major-nhs-risk-brexit-pythons-johnson-and-gove
Major comes out fighting!

one of your all time heros?

Moby

CLAPTON wrote: »

one of your all time heros?

He's saying what I've been saying and he was PM for 7 years. Seriously do you listen to him or Boris Johnston? Who has credibility?

mystic_trev

Moby wrote: »

He's saying what I've been saying and he was PM for 7 years. Seriously do you listen to him or Boris Johnston? Who has credibility?

You mean the John Major who gave a whole new meaning to the term 'going out for a curry(ie)':D

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

He's saying what I've been saying and he was PM for 7 years. Seriously do you listen to him or Boris Johnston? Who has credibility?

Oh dear, things is the labour party are now so toxic that you have to praise Major :
but it is realistic for you to recognise that Labour will never be able to pass any laws whilst the vile clique Corbyn/McDonnell/Abbott are leading the dysfunctional labour party and so place your socialist hopes on the EU28
I suppose you both share a common hatred of democracy and the British people : in your case I guess your racial prejudice against the English plays a significant part.

michaels

Moby wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/05/john-major-nhs-risk-brexit-pythons-johnson-and-gove
Major comes out fighting!

Even brown spotted that monetary union without fiscal union didn't make sense. Major via the erm was looking to bring us in to the Euro so either he didn't understand the economics or more likely wanted fiscal and monetary union and thus a united stares of Europe.