If we vote for Brexit what happens

Mistermeaner

Here you go CLAPTON:

https://www.nationstates.net/

Sapphire

mayonnaise wrote: »

If the EU is falling apart, why are 7 countries lining up to join?

Don't they know it's about to fall apart? Maybe you should inform them before it's too late?

That is surely obvious. Opportunism and permission for their citizens to roam freely over more affluent parts of Europe in order to earn more and receive benefits (at the expense of the citizens of the countries they choose to come to, due to the consequent increasing depression in wages as people compete for jobs). They don't care what this means for the countries they come to. For them, the issue of sovereignty will be dealt with at some later date, when/if they are already in the EU, and when it suits them. Currently, draining the economic strength of more affluent countries and weakening them is what any such new joining will achieve.

It is more telling to me that Switzerland recently withdrew its long-standing application to join the EU.

Generali

Sapphire wrote: »

It is more telling to me that Switzerland recently withdrew its long-standing application to join the EU.

No it hasn't.

http://www.thelocal.ch/20160302/switzerland-national-council-eu-application

However, foreign minister Didier Burkhalter pointed out that the application has already been void since 1992. He labelled the motion "unnecessary", saying that Switzerland is not on the EU's list of official candidates and is considered by the Union to be an "independent, sovereign nation".

I mean 1992 feels quite recent to me but I think that reflects my age. If a week is a long time in politics, 24 years is forever.

Sapphire

So he presumably in effect implied fairly recently that Switzerland no longer wanted to be considered for membership of the EU, as far as I can gather…

Generali

Sapphire wrote: »

So he presumably in effect implied fairly recently that Switzerland no longer wanted to be considered for membership of the EU, as far as I can gather…

And hasn't for decades. This isn't a recent phenomenon despite your assertion.

Switzerland has been formally neutral in the eyes of the world since the Congress of Vienna and has a very different history to the UK.

mayonnaise

Sapphire wrote: »

Currently, draining the economic strength of more affluent countries and weakening them is what any such new joining will achieve.

History (A8 countries joining) has shown us enlargement being beneficial to both existing and acceding member states.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

History (A8 countries joining) has shown us enlargement being beneficial to both existing and acceding member states.

what history is this ?

Rinoa

CLAPTON wrote: »

what history is this ?

Maybe he means Greece.

Rinoa

Generali wrote: »

And hasn't for decades. This isn't a recent phenomenon despite your assertion.

Switzerland has been formally neutral in the eyes of the world since the Congress of Vienna and has a very different history to the UK.

The motion to withdraw their application was entitled "EU membership - achieving clarity"

They've obviously seen what's happened to the EU and, for the avoidance of doubt, wanted to make it abundantly clear their former application is 100% dead in the water.

I don't think they are happy with the EU insisting they accept every immigrant that turns up on their borders.

Sapphire

Rinoa wrote: »

The motion to withdraw their application was entitled "EU membership - achieving clarity"

They've obviously seen what's happened to the EU and, for the avoidance of doubt, wanted to make it abundantly clear their former application is 100% dead in the water.

I don't think they are happy with the EU insisting they accept every immigrant that turns up on their borders.

Indeed. That was my interpretation – that the Swiss are employing common sense in this respect by making it clear they do not want to belong to the EU. It's also indicative that Switzerland is an affluent country, unlike those that do want to join the Paradise on Earth that is the EU (or joined it relatively recently). Presumably the Swiss don't want their economy to be trashed, etc., and have taken steps to avoid this.