If we vote for Brexit what happens

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

There is a powerful article in the Guardian today about immigration.
This should only be read by people intending to vote stay.
Brexitears should not bother.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/26/migration-leave-campaign-eu-referendum

absolutely embarrassingly silly article

Moby

angrypirate wrote: »

Looks what happened in Austria the other day - they nearly elected a extreme right wing nutjob. What happens when the next Merkel or Holland is an extreme rightwing nutjob? Will you want out then?

Look closer to home mate. Farage, Boris, Grayling, Gove Neil Hamilton etc represent everything I loathe so why should I care about an extreme nut job in Euroland. We have our fair share here!

I'm therefore very happy that our politicians are often constrained in their activities by EU directives because I think most of them are idealogically driven nut jobs anyway! Fact is if it wasnt for the EU this govmt would have privatised much more than it has and reduced the working conditions of thousands of people; (look at the history of the Tories attitude towards the working time directive). Thatchers policies would never have been implemented in a federation. The basis of a federation is compromise, tacking to the middle, there would never be a right wing movement taking over, even if individual countries elected such types within their own borders. As for Labour Brexiteers....they are complete nut jobs as well because it's patently obvious as Rugged Toast said that Brexit will result in an independent Scotland and a succession of right wing govmts in England who will subsequently embark on a Thatcherite economic agenda of deregulated markets unconstrained by EU directives, and probably destroy the NHS in the process. Why on earth would someone who is left of centre support that? They are turkeys voting for Christmas!

Brexiteers tend to be right wing nut jobs preoccupied with the English constitution and so so worried about it being supplanted by Brussels law. They are worried about being in control of our borders to keep johnny foreigner at bay; they are worried about our laws, our trade rights, our fishing rights etc etc. I'm more worried about them! Lets face it despite a sprinkling of Labour odd balls the Brexit movement is basically made up of and energised by UKIP and right wing tories! Says a lot that does!

michaels

Moby wrote: »

Look closer to home mate. Farage, Boris, Grayling, Gove Neil Hamilton etc represent everything I loathe so why should I care about an extreme nut job in Euroland. We have our fair share here!

I'm therefore very happy that our politicians are often constrained in their activities by EU directives because I think most of them are idealogically driven nut jobs anyway! Fact is if it wasnt for the EU this govmt would have privatised much more than it has and reduced the working conditions of thousands of people; (look at the history of the Tories attitude towards the working time directive). Thatchers policies would never have been implemented in a federation. The basis of a federation is compromise, tacking to the middle, there would never be a right wing movement taking over, even if individual countries elected such types within their own borders. As for Labour Brexiteers....they are complete nut jobs as well because it's patently obvious as Rugged Toast said that Brexit will result in an independent Scotland and a succession of right wing govmts in England who will subsequently embark on a Thatcherite economic agenda of deregulated markets unconstrained by EU directives, and probably destroy the NHS in the process. Why on earth would someone who is left of centre support that? They are turkeys voting for Christmas!

Brexiteers tend to be right wing nut jobs preoccupied with the English constitution and so so worried about it being supplanted by Brussels law. They are worried about being in control of our borders to keep johnny foreigner at bay; they are worried about our laws, our trade rights, our fishing rights etc etc. I'm more worried about them! Lets face it despite a sprinkling of Labour odd balls the Brexit movement is basically made up of and energised by UKIP and right wing tories! Says a lot that does!

The French have some of the best employment protection in Europe, and the permanent 10% plus unemployment that goes with it. Still who cares about the underclasses? Certainly not left wing politicians beholden to the unions.

sham63

CLAPTON wrote: »

absolutely embarrassingly silly article

What's 'embarrassing and silly' about wanting to know what will happen along the border between Northern and Southern Ireland?

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

Look closer to home mate. Farage, Boris, Grayling, Gove Neil Hamilton etc represent everything I loathe so why should I care about an extreme nut job in Euroland. We have our fair share here!

I'm therefore very happy that our politicians are often constrained in their activities by EU directives because I think most of them are idealogically driven nut jobs anyway! Fact is if it wasnt for the EU this govmt would have privatised much more than it has and reduced the working conditions of thousands of people; (look at the history of the Tories attitude towards the working time directive). Thatchers policies would never have been implemented in a federation. The basis of a federation is compromise, tacking to the middle, there would never be a right wing movement taking over, even if individual countries elected such types within their own borders. As for Labour Brexiteers....they are complete nut jobs as well because it's patently obvious as Rugged Toast said that Brexit will result in an independent Scotland and a succession of right wing govmts in England who will subsequently embark on a Thatcherite economic agenda of deregulated markets unconstrained by EU directives, and probably destroy the NHS in the process. Why on earth would someone who is left of centre support that? They are turkeys voting for Christmas!

Brexiteers tend to be right wing nut jobs preoccupied with the English constitution and so so worried about it being supplanted by Brussels law. They are worried about being in control of our borders to keep johnny foreigner at bay; they are worried about our laws, our trade rights, our fishing rights etc etc. I'm more worried about them! Lets face it despite a sprinkling of Labour odd balls the Brexit movement is basically made up of and energised by UKIP and right wing tories! Says a lot that does!

basically you hate everyone that isn't of the extreme left.
you walk with IRA supporters, support nut cases that think killing 50 million chinese "on balance did more good than harm"; hate the tory 'living wage', hate UK generous maternity leave and pay arrangements and want to get rid of the UK NHS for the european equivalents.
you're just hate britain and the british.

ruggedtoast

CLAPTON wrote: »

basically you hate everyone that isn't of the extreme left.
you walk with IRA supporters, support nut cases that think killing 50 million chinese "on balance did more good than harm"; hate the tory 'living wage', hate UK generous maternity leave and pay arrangements and want to get rid of the UK NHS for the european equivalents.
you're just hate britain and the british.

And you my friend, need to find your shift key.

Moby

michaels wrote: »

The French have some of the best employment protection in Europe, and the permanent 10% plus unemployment that goes with it. Still who cares about the underclasses? Certainly not left wing politicians beholden to the unions.

You call it beholden to the unions ...I call it protection for working people.....besides Germany hasn't done so bad over the last 40 years.....the country that has taken the biggest burden of 'underclass' migrants by the way!
By the way do you seriously think our govmt cares about unemployed people......their policies are driven by cost reduction and eroding terms and conditions.....a decrease in the headline figure of unemployment is an unintended benefit giving them cover from their real objectives!

Moby

CLAPTON wrote: »

basically you hate everyone that isn't of the extreme left.
you walk with IRA supporters, support nut cases that think killing 50 million chinese "on balance did more good than harm"; hate the tory 'living wage', hate UK generous maternity leave and pay arrangements and want to get rid of the UK NHS for the european equivalents.
you're just hate britain and the british.

See what I mean....nut jobs....It's like shooting fish in a barrel!. How long did it take....must have been all of 5 minutes to reel him in!:rotfl:

CLAPTON

sham63 wrote: »

What's 'embarrassing and silly' about wanting to know what will happen along the border between Northern and Southern Ireland?

Foreigners can walk across the border now : what would change?
and in any event the question need asking of the Irish government

CLAPTON

Moby wrote: »

You call it beholden to the unions ...I call it protection for working people.....besides Germany hasn't done so bad over the last 40 years.....the country that has taken the biggest burden of 'underclass' migrants by the way!
By the way do you seriously think our govmt cares about unemployed people......their policies are driven by cost reduction and eroding terms and conditions.....a decrease in the headline figure of unemployment is an unintended benefit giving them cover from their real objectives!

best way of depressing wages and working conditions, is the continuous supply of cheap migrant labour thats willing to live in a shoe box