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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Is Nigel Farage also feigning faux dismay?

    The dynamics of the referendum are much more interesting than general elections because they make for some interesting bedfellows.

    Farage and Johnson?

    Or the three amigos Cameron, Corbyn and Sturgeon?

    Makes me laugh how they agree on one item but can't resist undermining each other even though it might be to the detriment of their campaign.

    I think Johnson's comments were ill-advised but Farage has some brass neck - I bet his opinions on the Obama intervention were somewhat more fruity.
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Pound jumps to 10-week high as Brexit fears ease
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/pound-jumps-to-10-week-high-as-brexit-fears-ease-2016-04-26-6103015
    Obama’s intervention sees Boris’ Brexit bashed by bettors
    William Hill spokesperson Graham Sharpe said: “The betting market was reflecting the opinion polls by and large, until Mr Obama intervened, since when it has been one-way traffic with an overwhelming swing towards Remain. Astonishingly enough, 84% of the stake money we have taken – but only 37% of the individual bets – have been for Remain.”
    Head of Political Betting at Ladbrokes Matthew Shaddick told the International Business Times UK: “The odds for remain have fallen drastically in the last three or four days, at least some of that you can put down to Obama. There have been an awful lot of people place quite a lot of money on ‘remain’ since last week.”
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    Cable soars as Brexit recedes - But are UK voters lying to pollsters?
    Cable continued its torrid run in early London trade today as it raced past the 1.4550 level and put the 1.4600 squarely in view as chances of Brexit continued to evaporate.

    Sterling is now up more than 500 pips since the start of the month as polls continue to show that Remain vote continues to lead. Bookies are now projecting chances of Brexit at only 20% or less and there was speculation today that many hedge funds have started to close out their cable shorts capitulating on their earlier bets on Brexit.

    http://www.fxstreet.com/analysis/daily-market-recaps/2016/04/26/
  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    edited 26 April 2016 at 11:56AM
    Sterling surges higher on latest Brexit poll
    The Pound is appreciating this morning after the remain camp for the EU referendum received another boost with the latest poll from the Telegraph showing 51% support for their side. The GBPUSD has built on recent gains to trade the highest level for the pair in over two months, as the balance of news flows of late seem to be offering more reasons to cheer for the status quo. Stocks are also higher on the day, with the FTSE 100 looking to break a run of three consecutive lower closes which represents the worst sequence for bulls in over ten weeks
    http://www.fxstreet.com/analysis/daily-market-talk/2016/04/26/

    EDIT - Poll taken before Obama speech
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    setmefree2 wrote: »

    Bond yields on Gilts are still up a fair bit which are a much better proxy for credit risk than FX rates which are a pretty indirect measure.

    Generally I'd be pretty careful of using asset prices as a proxy for other events as they are not a vote on the risks of Remainia or Brexit.
  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    More interference from the EU as they plan to sue us for charging fees to both UK and EU trucks using our roads.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3559086/Just-weeks-Brexit-vote-European-Commission-announces-plans-sue-Britain-unfair-road-tolls-foreign-trucks.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

    For more of the same, just vote remain.
    If I don't reply to your post,
    you're probably on my ignore list.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Rinoa wrote: »
    More interference from the EU as they plan to sue us for charging fees to both UK and EU trucks using our roads.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3559086/Just-weeks-Brexit-vote-European-Commission-announces-plans-sue-Britain-unfair-road-tolls-foreign-trucks.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

    For more of the same, just vote remain.

    If the UK had broken WTO trade rules there would also be a case and a ruling and a sanction against the UK. This isn't due to being in the EU, this is how free trade is done.

    The UK Government is trying, in the opinion of others, to subsidise UK truckers illegally.

    Boeing got a bunch of tax breaks, harming companies that operate in the UK and across the EU. What happened?

    http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=784

    The EU went to the WTO to complain about illegal state subsidies. What's the only difference?

    Oh yeah, it's much harder to bring a case about illegal subsidy to justice outside the EU

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-usa-boeing-idUSKBN0JX1T120141219

    One of the strengths of the EU is that there are formal, strong means of restoration in cases like this. Yes, that means everyone has given up a bit of sovereignty by definition. They have given up that bit of sovereignty to try to make supranational disputes easier to resolve. The EU hasn't taken that sovereignty away, all of it was freely given up by democratically elected Governments across Europe.
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,223 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    If the UK decide to go from charging per year for UK vehicles only to charging per day for all goods vehicles how is this unfairly impacting vehicles from other countries?
    I think....
  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    If the UK had broken WTO trade rules there would also be a case and a ruling and a sanction against the UK. This isn't due to being in the EU, this is how free trade is done.

    The UK Government is trying, in the opinion of others, to subsidise UK truckers illegally.

    Boeing got a bunch of tax breaks, harming companies that operate in the UK and across the EU. What happened?

    http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=784

    The EU went to the WTO to complain about illegal state subsidies. What's the only difference?

    Oh yeah, it's much harder to bring a case about illegal subsidy to justice outside the EU

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-usa-boeing-idUSKBN0JX1T120141219

    One of the strengths of the EU is that there are formal, strong means of restoration in cases like this. Yes, that means everyone has given up a bit of sovereignty by definition. They have given up that bit of sovereignty to try to make supranational disputes easier to resolve. The EU hasn't taken that sovereignty away, all of it was freely given up by democratically elected Governments across Europe.

    You could have a successful career as an EU bureaucrat.

    Lots of stuff about the wonderful ways of the EU but zero comment on the unfairness caused to UK haulage companies by the previous system.
    If I don't reply to your post,
    you're probably on my ignore list.
  • bugslet
    bugslet Posts: 6,874 Forumite
    michaels wrote: »
    If the UK decide to go from charging per year for UK vehicles only to charging per day for all goods vehicles how is this unfairly impacting vehicles from other countries?

    AIUI, the complaint is that to make the process revenue neutral to UK hauliers, they dropped the VED by a certain amount shortly before the charge for foreign vehicles began.

    It's down to the government to bring in another method of charging that is compatible with EU law. As I've mentioned, I pay a lot for Italy, germany, Belgium, Austria, France, Denmark etc, but foreign vehicles don't pay for the use of UK roads.
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