If we vote for Brexit what happens

Rinoa

Generali wrote: »

Yes TTIP is a two way deal that imposes, AIUI, exactly the same rules on EU members as the USA.

A study estimates (guesses?) that incomes will be about 0.5% higher in the EU and about 0.4% higher in the USA as a result of this deal. If the UK walks away from the EU it walks away from TTIP too of course and every other trade deal signed since 1974.

Still I'm sure that the USA is very keen to spend huge amount of time and money on working out a deal with 60 million people that have just walked away from a market of 500,000,000. Let's hope so anyway. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?

Don't know much about TTIP.

Will it allow EU citizens to live and work in the US?

CLAPTON

Rinoa wrote: »

Don't know much about TTIP.

Will it allow EU citizens to live and work in the US?

I don't think so, but I do believe it will allow US citizens to carry firearms in Europe and a limited license to shoot other Americans

mwpt

If we vote Brexit but London largely votes to remain, London will secede he UK and join Europe as a city state. After all, this is a democracy and the will of the people of London should be democratically respected.

CLAPTON

mwpt wrote: »

If we vote Brexit but London largely votes to remain, London will secede he UK and join Europe as a city state. After all, this is a democracy and the will of the people of London should be democratically respected.

I welcome your new found devotion to democracy. Although I think it premature to say that London 'will secede' I look forward to your denunciation of the undemocratic EU and will join you in calling for brexit.

mwpt

CLAPTON wrote: »

I welcome your new found devotion to democracy. Although I think it premature to say that London 'will secede' I look forward to your denunciation of the undemocratic EU and will join you in calling for brexit.

No sport, you are confused. London prefers the EU democracy to the UK democracy and wishes to secede the UK and join the EU union of nations as a city state. We will count on your support if we begin the process.

Generali

Rinoa wrote: »

Don't know much about TTIP.

Will it allow EU citizens to live and work in the US?

No more so than currently. Why is it that Brexiteers are so obsessed by immigration?

CLAPTON

mwpt wrote: »

No sport, you are confused. London prefers the EU democracy to the UK democracy and wishes to secede the UK and join the EU union of nations as a city state. We will count on your support if we begin the process.

what is your general principle for democratic decisions that involving breaking up a sovereign state?

Rinoa

Generali wrote: »

No more so than currently. Why is it that Brexiteers are so obsessed by immigration?

I only asked the question as remainers claimed the EU wouldn't make a trade deal that didn't allow for full and free movement of its citizens.

But apparently that's not the case any more.

mwpt

CLAPTON wrote: »

what is your general principle for democratic decisions that involving breaking up a sovereign state?

My opinions are irrelevant in the face of democracy. The will of the people is supreme, as you have repeatedly stated.

Rinoa

Remember that queue Obama said we would be at the back of.

Germany’s economy minister, Sigmar Gabriel, has said negotiations ‘will fail’ if the US refuses to make concessions, adding: ‘The Americans want to hold fast to their “Buy American” idea. We can’t accept that. They don’t want to open their public tenders to European companies. For me, that goes against free trade.’ Mr Raab argues that, if the US wants to put pressure on the European Union, it could quickly strike a deal with a newly independent UK.

Maybe that queue won't be as long as first thought.