If we vote for Brexit what happens

Generali

Tromking wrote: »

I haven't the foggiest.
Perhaps a post Brexit UK will look like the 16 members of the G20 who aren`'t in the EU.
Is Australia in the G20?

Yes, Australia is in the G20.

Can you point me towards the post-Brexit plan?

michaels

Generali wrote: »

Do we have a plan from Team Brexit yet? Some substance as to what model is intended to be pursued after a Brexit and we enter the post-EU Utopia.

As it looks close I have decided to vote in this referendum for two reasons:

1. To save you lot from yourselves
2. To upset CLAPTON

It's a shame I couldn't have voted in the Scottish referendum.

Here is the plan:
We will have a written constitution and enshrine all that we want to keep of the EHCR
We will have two fully elected parliamentary chambers
We will have a points based immigration system possibly allowing just as many immigrants as now or even more but of our choosing
We will conclude trade deals on the basis of how good they are for all our citizens rather than based on the politics of special interest groups spread over the whole of Europe - Olive Oil and nice New World wines will be much cheaper.

And most importantly - we will be able to make changes to all of these (subject to the constitutional process) whenever we want to following votes by our democratically elected representative.

CLAPTON

The EU doesn't have a plan to
-resolve the economic situation in Greece
-to resolve the youth unemployment in the southern EU state
-to resolve the immigration problem
-to resolve the risk factors inherent in the US election
- etc etc

brexit people aren't in power so can't have a plan until Cameron clearly says he will resign along with the entire government call a general election.

Then the plan will be drawn up by the party with the majority (its called democracy that many seem unfamiliar with here).

Amazingly just like the 'stay' group, the brexit people have many different views about policies.

Generali

michaels wrote: »

Here is the plan:
We will have a written constitution and enshrine all that we want to keep of the EHCR
We will have two fully elected parliamentary chambers
We will have a points based immigration system possibly allowing just as many immigrants as now or even more but of our choosing
We will conclude trade deals on the basis of how good they are for all our citizens rather than based on the politics of special interest groups spread over the whole of Europe - Olive Oil and nice New World wines will be much cheaper.

And most importantly - we will be able to make changes to all of these (subject to the constitutional process) whenever we want to following votes by our democratically elected representative.

Is that your plan or the plan by a particular Brexit group?

It really does seem that a Brexit vote is a leap into the unknown. At least the SNP had a plan even if the plan was terrible.

CLAPTON

Generali wrote: »

Is that your plan or the plan by a particular Brexit group?

It really does seem that a Brexit vote is a leap into the unknown. At least the SNP had a plan even if the plan was terrible.

Could you tell us about the Aus 5 year plan? does it roll forward every year?
Does it change when the government changes or is it decided by a secret cabal of men (has to be men) in the shadows?

Just to think, only a short time ago you used to believe in(more or less) market forces, supply and demand determine prices, the laffer curve and lots more sensible stuff : now every statement is evaluated not by any economic logic but solely whether it supports the dogma of the EU or not.

Generali

CLAPTON wrote: »

Could you tell us about the Aus 5 year plan? does it roll forward every year?
Does it change when the government changes or is it decided by a secret cabal of men (has to be men) in the shadows?

Just to think, only a short time ago you used to believe in(more or less) market forces, supply and demand determine prices, the laffer curve and lots more sensible stuff : now every statement is evaluated not by any economic logic but solely whether it supports the dogma of the EU or not.

Australia isn't planning on leaving ASIAN any time soon or dumping the Queen so we don't need a fresh plan. When it was proposed that Australia got rid of HMQ there was a very detailed plan in place for what would replace Her.

You are planning on ripping up all your free trade agreements and your constitution. That probably requires a bit of thinking about.

kabayiri

Trying to be non-partisan about this.

I can see how Team Brexit could find it very difficult to announce a plan.

It would probably be along the lines of "the EU is messing up things big time, and we are better off lining up with other places in the world".

You can't actually say any of this, though, because it isn't really a good thing to alienate 400m+ people on your doorstep.

I thought the tried and trusted method was to get the vote to go your way, and then work out what you plan to do.

There might be something different to go back to anyway.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/646796/Dutch-voters-in-out-EU-referendum-Brexit-contagion-fears-Brussels-Jean-Claude-Juncker

It's not like everyone else is completely happy with things as they are.

Even if we vote to Remain who is to say other countries won't choose to leave?

wotsthat

michaels wrote: »

Here is the plan:
We will have a written constitution and enshrine all that we want to keep of the EHCR
We will have two fully elected parliamentary chambers
We will have a points based immigration system possibly allowing just as many immigrants as now or even more but of our choosing
We will conclude trade deals on the basis of how good they are for all our citizens rather than based on the politics of special interest groups spread over the whole of Europe - Olive Oil and nice New World wines will be much cheaper.

And most importantly - we will be able to make changes to all of these (subject to the constitutional process) whenever we want to following votes by our democratically elected representative.

I would've led with the cheaper wine.

CLAPTON

Generali wrote: »

Australia isn't planning on leaving ASIAN any time soon or dumping the Queen so we don't need a fresh plan. When it was proposed that Australia got rid of HMQ there was a very detailed plan in place for what would replace Her.

You are planning on ripping up all your free trade agreements and your constitution. That probably requires a bit of thinking about.

I'm shocked that Aus doesn't have a comprehensive plan : The IMF has just advised the world of the appalling consequences that will follow when brexit occurs : and you have no plan to deal with it?

I'm not planning on ripping up our trade agreements but if the 27 EU countries are determined to harm their own people then we will have to cope with the consequences, just as we have had to deal with other mad or bad people (one thinks of the damage that the Euro has done to world trade.

As your example showed, most plans don't get past the first punch in the face.

michaels

Generali wrote: »

Is that your plan or the plan by a particular Brexit group?

It really does seem that a Brexit vote is a leap into the unknown. At least the SNP had a plan even if the plan was terrible.

Are you calling my plan terrible?