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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    edited 3 June 2017 at 7:55AM
    Breixt will be reversed or very much watered down under Labour. Thier corporation tax policy will force firms to Ireland, but this will be pinned on Brexit.
    Few Labour politicians have the slightest understanding of Brexit and the opportunity ahead.

    I will be joining any party calling for an independent England if Corbyn wins, as we will need a radical fightback. It's time England with its majority conservative populace cut a new path.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    I will be joining any party calling for an independent England if Corbyn wins, as we will need a radical fightback. It's time England with its majority conservative populace cut a new path.

    If Labour wins, you'll just have to suck it up, Conrad.
    After all, that's what your lot has been telling Remoaners to do for the past 12 months. :)
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • gfplux
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    The David Davis rumour again.
    http://www.politico.eu/article/ben-gummer-could-replace-david-davis-as-uk-brexit-negotiator-eu-brussels/
    "The Times reported today that the prime minister, should she win the election, is considering “promoting” Davis to foreign secretary to replace Boris Johnson. The young cabinet office minister Ben Gummer has been lined up to be the new secretary of state for exiting the European Union, the paper’s well-connected political editor Francis Elliott writes."



    It might be a clever strategy as Davis has been the stalking horse saying "Nasty" things to the EU.
    But all good fun.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • gfplux
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    edited 3 June 2017 at 8:55AM
    Further fun can be had with the Bloomberg Brexit barometer.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-brexit-barometer/?cmpid=BBBXT060117_BIZ&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=170601&utm_campaign=brexit

    "The Bloomberg Brexit Barometer declined for a third day as the pound continued to be buffeted by conflicting projections for the June 8 general election. Increasing market tensions before next week’s vote have seen a gauge of implied volatility in the currency climb. U.K. manufacturing activity, meanwhile, maintained its momentum in May, IHS Markit’s Purchasing Managers Index showed. The Barometer slipped to 10.4, the lowest since last July.

    The custom index, designed to show the impact of the separation process on the U.K., is made up of indicators for employment, inflation, growth and uncertainty. The higher the number, the healthier the economy—and vice versa."

    This is today's update.
    "The Bloomberg Brexit Barometer rose for the first time in four days as data showed Britain’s construction industry unexpectedly improved last month, growing at the fastest pace since 2015. Workloads increased the most this year and the pace of hiring also picked up, according to an IHS Markit report. The Barometer increased to 17.4, rebounding from the lowest level since July."
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    If Labour wins, you'll just have to suck it up, Conrad.
    After all, that's what your lot has been telling Remoaners to do for the past 12 months. :)

    The deep disvisions over the EU will intensify if we remain, dont dismiss a big ground swell movment for an Independant England.

    We will only remain if a con trick is pulled, for example the left engineering a bad deal being offered by the EU which will be the case given the lefts approach to negotiations.

    People will wake up to this huge con trick, and notice all the things blamed on Brexit will still occur, such as inflation and offshoring and all the while the EU seeks ever more UK tax money. Immigration is consistently a top three voter concern in all polling

    FOM and mass immigration won't suddenly be accepted especially when the young continue to find home building cannot possibly keep pace. They will fell they were conned by the left.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Setmefree I was pondering your point about the sky not falling in under Labour. Overall I tend to look for the positive and I can see how a massive investment programme could be a boost, but I think the deep divisions revealed by Brexit will only fester and seeth away, growing to something really very significant indeed.

    People are carried away by Corbyns free money express at the mo, but once the dust settled and they saw huge immigration meaning the housing crisis does not go away, and many other effects such as increasing tax on all and a ballooning wanton welfare culture, reality will hit home.

    Few in Labour get Briexit, they simply won't have the mindset to get the deal we need, so it will end up reversed or watered down, but I just don't see middle England accepting this further betrayal by the political class.
  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    BRUSSELS has admitted that one in four people inside the EU are on the verge of poverty, amid growing concerns that the European project faces years of instability.

    One in four citizens inside the EU is living on the edge of poverty in a scathing assessment of the European project.

    There had been a hope among European Union officials that the election of French President Emmanuel Macron would reset the recent troubles surrounding the Brussels bloc.

    However, the statistics revealed at this week's Brussels Economic Forum on the growing income inequality has shocked the European establishment.

    Despite a fall in unemployment across the bloc, a tenth of those in work earn below the poverty line.

    During this week's forum on the state of the EU economy, discussions focused on the growing gap between the richest and poorest.

    The richest 20 per cent of those in the EU earn five times as much as those in the bottom 20 per cent of income.

    In a report from PressTV, the plight of poverty is rampant across the continent.

    Most worrying is the trend that one in ten full-time workers officially live in poverty, according to statistics from the European Commission.

    Valdis Dombrovskis, who is the Vice-President of the European Comission, opened the forum by revealing that young people are the group most of risk of falling into poverty.

    He went on to warn that even those in the wealthiest countries suffered a rise in poverty.

    In a shock development, Germany's rise in poverty was the biggest among the major European countries.

    The rate of rising poverty in Angela Merkel's country was three times that as in Italy and France.

    Alexander Stubb, the ex-Prime Minister of Finland, warned that Europe faces years of "popular revolt" at the election booths.

    He said: "We have an increase in the gap between income levels, growing perception of corruption, and a migration crisis.

    "That is a recipe for chaos."

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/812639/EU-poverty-line-Germany-income-inequality
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  • Yah_Boo_Sux
    Yah_Boo_Sux Posts: 133 Forumite
    Personally I liked this what? Slip of the tongue? Freudian slip? Again the same source but oh!
    During a press conference with the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Mrs Merkel spoke about "German-Indian trade" before quickly correcting herself to say "EU-Indian trade".
    The bizarre mix-up will contribute towards criticism of what is perceieved as German leadership of the European Union.
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/812658/Angela-Merkel-Germany-EU-slip-up-Modi
  • gfplux
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    Here is a BLATENT pitch by a head hunter for business in LUXEMBOURG
    I don't post this to have the regular anti Luxembourg gang make snide comments but to inform.
    Just read this blog and understand that The World are pitching against Britain during this long, long period of uncertainty.
    Knowing Luxembourg I would dispute her numbers on cross border workers. I understand that +\- 130,000 worker come across the borders with FRANCE, Belgium and Germany to work. Plus a few that fly in on a Monday and leave on Friday from amongst other city's London.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    Setmefree I was pondering your point about the sky not falling in under Labour. Overall I tend to look for the positive and I can see how a massive investment programme could be a boost, but I think the deep divisions revealed by Brexit will only fester and seeth away, growing to something really very significant indeed.

    People are carried away by Corbyns free money express at the mo, but once the dust settled and they saw huge immigration meaning the housing crisis does not go away, and many other effects such as increasing tax on all and a ballooning wanton welfare culture, reality will hit home.

    Few in Labour get Briexit, they simply won't have the mindset to get the deal we need, so it will end up reversed or watered down, but I just don't see middle England accepting this further betrayal by the political class.

    Who are you trying to convince?Apparently brexit is the issue of a generation and the Tories decided to call a GE a few weeks before negotiations start. What does that tell you about their priorities?

    IMO a Tory win is still far more likely than a labour win but if May reduces her majority by only a few seats you'll find the Tories will be so focused on Brexit that they'll decide to change leader.

    I can't believe what a mess the Tories have made of this. Complacency and hubris is what's done it - at least it's toned down the worst of the boorishness.
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