If we vote for Brexit what happens

Conrad

always_sunny wrote: »

I said that before, I don't know why British folks seem so aggressively against the ECJ when it has little impact on their daily life and it's only used as an escalation point.

By your logic the Canadians are daft for not making use of the US Supreme Court as an outside adjudicator.

gfplux

Here is a question and answer paper about the European Medicines Agency.
It will be leaving Britain due to Brexit.

http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/document_library/Other/2017/05/WC500228739.pdf

I urge everyone to NOT BOTHER about it. It is a boring document, a total mystery to anyone not involved in the industry.
Those in the pharma industry have commented it will mean job losses. What do they know.

Conrad

gfplux wrote: »

Here is a question and answer paper about the European Medicines Agency.
It will be leaving Britain due to Brexit.

http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/document_library/Other/2017/05/WC500228739.pdf

I urge everyone to NOT BOTHER about it. It is a boring document, a total mystery to anyone not involved in the industry.
Those in the pharma industry have commented it will mean job losses. What do they know.

So what, we've always lost jobs and sectors, companies and niches, and developed new ones.

Do we say EU membership was 100% negative because we lost millions of jobs during the last 40 years?

No, It's just life. France has been loosing lots of companies such as Whirlpool. And?

Now what about all the new opportunities?

always_sunny

Conrad wrote: »

By your logic the Canadians are daft for not making use of the US Supreme Court as an outside adjudicator.

By your logic you believe Canada and the USA are on the same terms as member states in the EU.

always_sunny

Conrad wrote: »

Now what about all the new opportunities?

What about them? Tell us, what about them.
Most of GE manifestos are about 'getting a deal with the EU' not about walk away from the EU because of new opportunities are abound out there. Why?
Why [according to your politicians] is it crucial for the UK to get a deal with the EU as part of Brexit? Is it because the UK is so generous to the EU?

Sure there are opportunities outside the EU, like there are now.

wotsthat

This thread has been going since 10th Jan 2016 and I reckon we're not much further forward in answering the question posed in the OP other than it now seems nailed on that we'll leave the EU.

Mrs May has said it's vital that she's in office when negotiations start and despite being able to guarantee that by not calling a GE decided to call one to create a little more uncertainty.

In the last 10 days we've been downgrading the forthcoming Tory win from an epic landslide to various shades of working majority/ hung parliament.

One thing to consider is just how ruthless the Tories can be with their leaders especially when the Europe glasses go on. I expect the Tories to win but if the majority is in the order of what they have now I expect Mrs. May to be wondering if Europe's craggy shores are about to wreck another Tory career. The whole GE will have been a massive waste of time, money, headspace and, it appears, has helped to breathe new life into the Labour party.

I'd love to know who in the Conservative party pushed the GE agenda. I doubt Mrs May was that keen - I hope it was the buffoon Boris.

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

Now what about all the new opportunities?

You won't be seeking Brexit related opportunities or risking capital to act upon them. Your day to day life will be unchanged. Your whole working life has been spent shackled by the EU and I suspect you've done just fine.

Just what are the opportunities you think you'll be seizing?

kabayiri

wotsthat wrote: »

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Just what are the opportunities you think you'll be seizing?

I think we will end up going to Asia more for technology talent. In fact, there are Indian companies now looking to extend their interests in UK, not reduce them.

There's money to be made there.

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

You won't be seeking Brexit related opportunities or risking capital to act upon them. Your day to day life will be unchanged. Your whole working life has been spent shackled by the EU and I suspect you've done just fine.

Just what are the opportunities you think you'll be seizing?

Why are you asking how things will affect me personally? Uppermost in my mind is the good of the nation as a whole, not my petty little life.


Obviously if I was to take the self-interested line I might opt for status quo and Remain, but I'm not built that way.


As to capital at risk - well I have properties and pension and ISA's (1 current, some frozen). IMO Brexit will enable the UK to thrive better as we will benefit from full local autonomy and tailor made policy, as well as being far more nimble and able to exploit opportunity compared with being shackled to Brussels.
I'm self employed, so am as exposed to economic turbulence as the next man.


My eldest is 17 and soon to embark on the world of work so I'm very much attuned to national outcomes for the benefit of us all, not just my petty little existence.


You ask what opportunities I will be seizing - well just to carry on investing really, and IF I have the bottle open another business my kids might want to be in on - a healthy takeaway outlet for example (business commuters coming off train picking up healthy hot meals as opposed to kebab / Chinese / Pizza)

Conrad

Sharp rise in the construction PMI for May, up to a lively 56 from 53.1 last month.


Overtime the gloom brigade gets excited by another doom forecast, awkward positive FACTS get in the way.