If we vote for Brexit what happens

A_Medium_Size_Jock

gfplux wrote: »

Remarkably the EU are making their "Starting" negotiating position VERY clear. If they continue to be so transparent it will be an "entertaining" spectator sport.

I see you persist in attempts at persuading readers of various threads in this forum to comment on this EU plan that you (surprise surprise) like so much ......... getting anxious at the lack of response are we?

The reason there is so little response is simple: it only sets out formally what the EU have said for some time.
No more and no less.
It is their set of plans, no more than that and - as said earlier in this thread - it says much about UK obligations yet very little about EU obligations.
Strange, that.
Perhaps you would think about why that is?

A_Medium_Size_Jock

George Soros on the EU:

The European Union is now in an existential crisis," Mr Soros told an audience in Brussels. "Most Europeans of my generation were supporters of further integration. Subsequent generations came to regard the EU as an enemy that deprives them of a secure and promising future."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/06/01/dysfunctional-eu-has-plunged-existential-crisis-george-soros/

cogito

always_sunny wrote: »

Specifically what rights do you think the ECJ will impose that the British courts wouldn't.
Specially how many UK cases go to the ECJ that you believe ECJ involvement is such a big problem?

In that case, there seems to be no reason to involve the ECJ. We appear to be in agreement.

mayonnaise

George Soros on the EU:

The EU should capitalise on the momentum from election victories for pro-European candidates in The Netherlands and France, and the likelihood of a repeat in Germany in September, Mr Soros said in a Project Syndicate op-ed published on Thursday.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/george-soros-brexit-negotiations-eu-uk-last-years-immense-damage-hungarian-american-billionaire-a7766536.html

StevieJ

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

George Soros on the EU:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/06/01/dysfunctional-eu-has-plunged-existential-crisis-george-soros/

Strange that, because generally, it was the young in the UK who wanted to stay and old who voted to leave?

Conrad

StevieJ wrote: »

Strange that, because generally, it was the young in the UK who wanted to stay and old who voted to leave?

Strange that when the old were young they voted for the Common Market. Perhaps getting conned and having democratic competencies gradually handed to a Brussels elite helped change their minds.


This reminds me of the equally lame line of 'argument' that Trump supporters are nasty xenophobes, the white lash brigade.
Yet only 4 and 8 years before the left spoke warmly of the same wise Obama voters.

Conrad

cogito wrote: »

In that case, there seems to be no reason to involve the ECJ. We appear to be in agreement.

Yes and equally so Remainers love to tell us we made pretty much all our own laws and enjoyed full democracy (O'Brien's daily narrative) in which case we wont miss Brussels then and the supposed giant task of realigning our laws must be myth.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

At the moment he is a godsend to Europe as Europe has never been more united than it is after his European visit.

Living over a 1,000 miles from the border with Russia. That's easy to say.

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

gfplux wrote: »

At the moment he is a godsend to Europe as Europe has never been more united than it is after his European visit.

:rotfl:
Oh please, the EU united?
Tell the Poles that or the Hungarians, or how about Austrians?
No?
Then try the Italians (5* gaining ground & those and another party wanting out the Euro), Bulgarians (rising populism & far right ministers appointed) and should we even mention Greeks?
United indeed.
You're deluded.

kabayiri

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life wrote: »

:rotfl:
Oh please, the EU united?
Tell the Poles that or the Hungarians, or how about Austrians?
No?
Then try the Italians (5* gaining ground & those and another party wanting out the Euro), Bulgarians (rising populism & far right ministers appointed) and should we even mention Greeks?
United indeed.
You're deluded.

I think gfplux means "United" as in "Man United"

Ie : cost a fortune to assemble and run, and yet is still second rate.