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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    We will ensure immediate stability by lodging new UK schedules with the World Trade Organization, in alignment with EU schedules to which we are bound whilst still a member of the European Union. We will seek to replicate all existing EU free trade agreements and support the ratification of trade agreements entered into during our EU membership. We will continue to support the global multilateral rules-based trade system.

    We will introduce a Trade Bill in the next parliament. We will create a network of Her Majesty’s Trade Commissioners to head nine new regional overseas posts. These commissioners will lead export promotion, investment and trade policy overseas. We will reconvene the Board of Trade with a membership specifically charged with ensuring that we increase exports from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as well as England, and that trade policy is directly influenced by every part of our United Kingdom.
    https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/manifesto2017/Manifesto2017.pdf
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    edited 18 May 2017 at 12:32PM
    interesting bit from Tory manifesto,

    "We will be lodging new UK schedules with WTO"


    I wonder if Gina Miller will demand the Courts decide whether this is legal or not, lol?


    I heard an interesting point last night, let me know your thoughts;


    Gina Miller demanded Parliament had the final say on whether A50 was triggered on the basis that moving A50 was irrevocable and thus required Parliamentary approval. The Judges agreed that the irrevocable nature of A50 demanded this ruling.


    How does this Judge deemed irrevocability tie-in with Farrons referendum 2 mission?
  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    Also from manifesto:
    "....we continue to believe that no deal is better than a bad deal for the U.K."

    A gentle reminder to the EU. :)
    If I don't reply to your post,
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  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    Arklight wrote: »
    Really? Well if an English speaking, UKIP supporting middle class white man living in the home counties hasn't encountered discrimination everything must be fine then.


    I said on the whole I don't encounter racism, certainly not in the overt open air way I have in France and Italy.


    You failed to answer why so many foreigners are still choosing to come to nasty Britain? Some risk life n limb getting out of Europe to get here from Calais etc.
  • Following reports of Enda Kenny's resignation comes news of Ireland asking for EU help over any economic fallout as a result of Brexit:
    "More than likely will have to make a case for assistance from the European Union in this regard because all of the economic reports would indicate that Ireland would be most adversely impacted by a difficult Brexit," Kenny told a conference on Brexit.
    "While we are the strongest and fastest growing economy (in the EU) ...these shocks and problems are of major significance for us."
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-ireland-idUKKCN18E19G


    Does Ireland not yet realise that the EU needs more income, not less?
    ;)
  • cogito
    cogito Posts: 4,898 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »

    That's quite a contrast with Corbyn's letter to Santa Claus.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    According to Farage on LBC last night, the UK economy is bigger than the bottom 20 EU economies together.


    Not sure the EU, with lots of net dependent nations can really afford to reduce its trade with the UK on top of loosing our £10bn club fee.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    setmefree2 wrote: »




    But we're going darn the pan, what's wrong with these French twits? They need to be investing in the EU, Remoan Inc' says much harm is to befall the nasty UK.
  • Arklight
    Arklight Posts: 3,182 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    I said on the whole I don't encounter racism, certainly not in the overt open air way I have in France and Italy.


    You failed to answer why so many foreigners are still choosing to come to nasty Britain? Some risk life n limb getting out of Europe to get here from Calais etc.


    I am confused as to what kind of racism you think you are missing out on being a white English person in white English England.


    I don't know how much point there is in debating with you Conrad, because you switch between statistics and anecdotes depending on what suits you. Here is both.


    Statistically, university applications are down 7% from the EU, due to Brexit. Anecdotally, most of my friends and colleagues from the EU report they feel much less welcome than they did. Some are considering leaving, some wish they could leave but can't for family and work reasons.


    Some say they aren't bothered - but of these most say their family and friends in Europe are worried about them and they've had to reassure them they are ok in England.


    Asylum seekers and illegal migrants have nothing to do with the EU (despite UKIP's attempts to conflate the two). The UK takes less asylum applications than France, Sweden and Germany, and the UK and France put together take less than Germany.




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    People's reasons for choosing one country over another are complex. Research shows that most illegal migrants / asylum seekers who choose the UK do so because they already speak English and significantly over estimate the difficulty of adapting to another language environment, and / or that they have friends and family and a job promise here already.


    Illegal migrants can't claim benefits. It would be nice if the Daily Mail and Sun would stop stoking hatred by pretending they can, but there you go. Most want and expect to work and will go where they think that will happen.
  • Conrad
    Conrad Posts: 33,137 Forumite
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    edited 18 May 2017 at 1:59PM
    East Germany has over a hundred bilateral international treaties which will all need to be sorted out.” The task at hand was daunting.
    Many people at the time argued that such a momentous endeavour — the abolition of one state, its merger with another, the ending of decades of continental conflict — would take many years. Surely it made sense to phase things over a longer period? Instead, those in the driving seat planned to do it in months. And so they did. In October 1990, less than 12 months after the breaching of the Berlin Wall, the two Germanies united and communist East Germany, treaties and all, was written into the history books,

    https://www.ft.com/content/7071d018-0d67-11e7-b030-768954394623
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