If we vote for Brexit what happens

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

What flesh has to be put on the bone?
I am not sure that playing hard ball will gain Britain anything other than dragging out the time of phase one.
You are right that we don't know anything.

What phase one? The clock is already running down. The UK leaves on the 30th March 2019. Deal or no deal. 49 days have past already. If there's no trade deal in the offering, Why should the UK wish to continue to contribute to the club or settle other liabilities post exit of the union. The UK will continue to run on twin tracks in it's planning.

cogito

Thrugelmir wrote: »

What phase one? The clock is already running down. The UK leaves on the 30th March 2019. Deal or no deal. 49 days have past already. If there's no trade deal in the offering, Why should the UK wish to continue to contribute to the club or settle other liabilities post exit of the union. The UK will continue to run on twin tracks in it's planning.

Nothing will happen until after the GE. Then nothing will happen in July and August when Brussels goes on holiday. Then nothing will happen until after the German elections.

That's 6 months gone already.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

I am not sure that playing hard ball will gain Britain anything other than dragging out the time of phase one.

Seems as if Mrs May's approach was correct. Now we are witnessing the attitude for ourselves. If you want to be inflammatory and stoke the anti feelings. This is the way to do it. Though that the EU was meant to bring peace not hatred to Europe.

Britain will “pay a price” for stopping the free movement of workers in Europe, Angela Merkel said yesterday as she warned of tit-for-tat measures in response to changes to consumer or environmental protections after Brexit

gfplux

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Seems as if Mrs May's approach was correct. Now we are witnessing the attitude for ourselves. If you want to be inflammatory and stoke the anti feelings. This is the way to do it. Though that the EU was meant to bring peace not hatred to Europe.

I can not see anything inflammatory in my post. It was a statement of fact.
Britain and the EU have until March 2019 to do two things.
1) Negotiate Britains leaving
2) Negotiate a post Brexit relationship between Britain and the EU.

If you take up more time doing 1) you have less time to sort out 2)

What is becoming clear is that very few of us have no idea how all this will happen and don't have a clear idea of what will be on the agenda of 1)

I should add that with A50 is a provision to extend the two years. This has been talked of by Mrs May as a transition period.

How keen will the public and politicians be of 28 Country's to prologue the (agony) negotiations.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

I can not see anything inflammatory in my post. It was a statement of fact.

I shall requote as obviously you are skim reading.

Britain will “pay a price” for stopping the free movement of workers in Europe, Angela Merkel said yesterday as she warned of tit-for-tat measures in response to changes to consumer or environmental protections after Brexit

The message is very clear.

gfplux

The Times weekly Brexit email says that leaving the EU will mean that pet passports will have to be re-negotiated.
There are over 250,000 pet movements each year between Britain and the EU.
I am not certain this goes in to Phase one, the Divorce or Phase two, the new (trading) relationship.

gfplux

Thrugelmir wrote: »

I shall requote as obviously you are skim reading.




The message is very clear.

I miss read as I thought you were saying my post was inflammatory. I did not skim read your post. Even on second or third reading I still misunderstand your thrust. You actually mean Chancelor Merkel's comments are inflammatory.
I agree they are combatative but that is the present mood from both sides.
Hopefully when the sides sit down (Barnier has said in the "days" after the GE) cool heads will prevail.

Interesting
You say inflammatory
I say Combatative

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Though that the EU was meant to bring peace not hatred to Europe.

The EU has brought peace to Europe.

The Daily Mail, Express, etc have brought hate to the British perception of the EU.

Enterprise_1701C

It's Tusk that is spitting venom because we don't want to pay for the eu for the next 5 years as a penalty for leaving.

If they were so concerned about peace they would let us leave with a cheery wave, and should really be grateful to be rid of us as we have been a thorn in their side and halted their progress toward a federal superstate for as long as we could.

setmefree2

U.K.'s Brexit Bill Could Be as Low as $6.5 Billion, Study Says

• Chartered accountants group says bill could reach $39 billion
• Sums lower than those cited by EU officials ahead of talks

The U.K. may have to pay as little as 5 billion pounds ($6.5 billion) or no more than 30 billion pounds to leave the European Union, according to a study by the country’s chartered accountancy industry that’s sure to thrill Prime Minister Theresa May’s government.
The sum contained in a report released this week by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales is well below the 60 billion euros, the equivalent of 52 billion pounds, often mooted by EU officials and the 100 billion euros mentioned more recently.
"Ultimately the amount the UK will pay on or after its departure will be a matter of negotiation," Michael Izza, the group’s chief executive, said in a blog. "However, we would like to see both sides agree on the bill sooner rather than later, so that attention can be focused on more important aspects of the negotiations."

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-17/u-k-s-brexit-bill-could-be-as-low-as-6-5-billion-study-says