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If we vote for Brexit what happens

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  • WengerIn
    WengerIn Posts: 99 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    Some of you guys need to get over yourselves.

    If you have an issue with the moderation you ought to take it up with the site owner and if you get no joy leave.

    You can't be much more silent than posting anonymously on an internet forum which is password protected and not visible to google. Therefore I wouldn't worry about the traitorous Lord Haw Haw* contaminating too many minds with his blatant propaganda after you've gone.

    * aka someone with a different viewpoint in this case

    Or just sign up with a new username of course. TBH I'm not sure why nobody's every thought of that before.

    I should copyright the idea or something. Maybe we could bring Generali back using similar means. She seemed to have some interesting posts.
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  • wotsthat wrote: »
    Some of you guys need to get over yourselves.

    If you have an issue with the moderation you ought to take it up with the site owner and if you get no joy leave.

    You can't be much more silent than posting anonymously on an internet forum which is password protected and not visible to google. Therefore I wouldn't worry about the traitorous Lord Haw Haw* contaminating too many minds with his blatant propaganda after you've gone.

    * aka someone with a different viewpoint in this case
    Oh dear, do you not like frank discussion now?
    Yet you say "get over yourselves"; righty-ho.
    Pot.
    Kettle.

    As for asking the site about moderation, try it.
    Or even (if you're disinclined) try reading what is written about the moderation instead of trying the holier-than-though approach which, let's be honest, does not at all correspond with your posting style.
    Just as your quoted post very clearly shows.

    I note the "after you've gone" comment - are you then one of these deliberate post-reporters or do you merely encourage these?
    I am not and will not be going BTW.
    Someone needs to argue against the often immoral and/or corrupt stances shown so frequently in these forums.
    Being an anonymous forum is not free licence to spread deceit and corruption.

    As I said yesterday;
    So you think it okay to lie and cheat?
    Well I don't.
    It is reprehensible behaviour TBH, no matter how you view it.
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    wotsthat wrote: »
    60m English speakers are about to leave the EU therefore the influence of English speakers in the EU will be less. It was meant as a wry dig but it's true.

    It doesn't matter one bit.

    They will still do business with us and we with them. Business will decide, not Junker or any other EU bureaucrat.
  • In the Independent today it looks like Michel Barnier is saying that 'We will not discuss our future relationship with the UK until the 27 member states are reassured that all citizens will be treated properly and humanely'.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-brexit-citizens-amnesty-three-million-european-uk-no-proof-of-residency-theresa-may-latest-a7721201.html
    As far as the UK goes though he includes those with no proof of residency.

    Regardless, perhaps he forgot that Theresa May offered to discuss this and was refused:
    “We want to guarantee the rights of EU citizens who are already living in Britain and the rights of Britons in other member states as early as we can,” she said. “I have told EU leaders we could do that now,” she said. “Many of them favour such an agreement, one or two others do not,” she said.
    Sky News reported on Tuesday night that Angela Merkel was one of those who did not agree, but this was not confirmed.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/17/deal-citizens-rights-full-eu-theresa-may-brexit-referendum
  • Shakethedisease
    Shakethedisease Posts: 7,006 Forumite
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    In the Independent today it looks like Michel Barnier is saying that 'We will not discuss our future relationship with the UK until the 27 member states are reassured that all citizens will be treated properly and humanely'.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-brexit-citizens-amnesty-three-million-european-uk-no-proof-of-residency-theresa-may-latest-a7721201.html
    As far as the UK goes though he includes those with no proof of residency.

    Regardless, perhaps he forgot that Theresa May offered to discuss this and was refused:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jan/17/deal-citizens-rights-full-eu-theresa-may-brexit-referendum
    That was well before article 50 was triggered though, all those court cases etc etc. The EU said from the beginning they wouldn't negotiate until Article 50 was triggered.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • tracey3596
    tracey3596 Posts: 661 Forumite
    That was well before article 50 was triggered though, all those court cases etc etc. The EU said from the beginning they wouldn't negotiate until Article 50 was triggered.
    It doesn't exactly put the EU in any better light though, does it?
    In the eyes of British people especially, never mind all those affected.

    All of a sudden it goes from a matter not important enough to discuss to one requiring immediate attention?
  • Rinoa
    Rinoa Posts: 2,701 Forumite
    That was well before article 50 was triggered though, all those court cases etc etc. The EU said from the beginning they wouldn't negotiate until Article 50 was triggered.

    TM offered a simple and quick solution to Juncker at 'that dinner' protecting EU nationals here and Brits in the EU. Juncker said it was too complex to be done quickly. It always is with the EU.
    If I don't reply to your post,
    you're probably on my ignore list.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Rinoa wrote: »
    TM offered a simple and quick solution to Juncker at 'that dinner' protecting EU nationals here and Brits in the EU. Juncker said it was too complex to be done quickly. It always is with the EU.

    Starting with Gibraltar........ and then..... and then....

    Juncker is all mouth and no trousers as they say. An unelected President.
  • Gangaweed
    Gangaweed Posts: 169 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Starting with Gibraltar........ and then..... and then....

    Juncker is all mouth and no trousers as they say. An unelected President.

    I think it's clear that the EU does not want a deal they are being plain obstructive now. Perhaps it would be best for May to stop even trying.
  • mystic_trev
    mystic_trev Posts: 5,434 Forumite
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    A massive €100bn Brexit bill is ‘legally impossible’ to enforce, the European Commission’s own lawyers have admitted.

    The Telegraph has seen minutes of internal deliberations circulated by Brussels’ own Brexit negotiating team which had warned against pursuing the UK for extra payments.

    But member states appear to have ignored the Commission's own advice by demanding €100bn from the Government - a sharp hike in the original demand of €60bn.

    The inflated bill deepened the rift between Brussels and Downing Street. A leaked report of a Downing Street dinner with European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker accused Theresa May of living in “another galaxy”, prompting the Prime Minister in turn to accuse EU politicians and officials of seeking to disrupt the general election.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/06/100bn-brexit-bill-legally-impossible-enforce-european-commissions/
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