If we vote for Brexit what happens

mayonnaise

kabayiri wrote: »

All you need to do is whip up the media and relentlessly hammer home the idea that these Eurocrats are out to do us harm.

Same old tried and tested method of creating an external enemy to ensure national unity.
It worked so many times in the past and it looks like it's working today.

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Oh dear, another Luxembourger who doesn't know when to keep their mouth shut

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

Same old tried and tested method of creating an external enemy to ensure national unity.
It worked so many times in the past and it looks like it's working today.

"Creating"?
When you lie, cheat, otherwise deceive and generally behave in an obnoxious and sometimes immoral manner that would instead be termed as "describing".
Not "creating" since such attributes actually exist.

Conrad

mayonnaise wrote: »

Same old tried and tested method of creating an external enemy to ensure national unity.
It worked so many times in the past and it looks like it's working today.

The left sought to close down debate at every turn by invoking the nasty Tory whipping boy for years.


People woke up to this dumbing down of political discourse and embraced view point diversity.


Conservatives don't fall for undergrad tricks that seek to frame us as xenophobic villains. We are just practical people that want to see an orderly immigration and welfare system, you know like nasty Canada has


We recognise life and politics are a bit more complex than those with sickly naïve virtue signalling instincts would have us believe

wotsthat

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Oh dear, another Luxembourger who doesn't know when to keep their mouth shut:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jean-claud-juncker-brexit-uk-eu-english-language-french-brexit-theresa-may-commission-a7719151.html

Is this Junckers showing respect as Donald Tusk requested yesterday?

He's having a bit of a troll but he's right - the importance of English in the EU will diminish.

Not sure why his nationality or the residence of a fellow poster matters though.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

wotsthat wrote: »

He's having a bit of a troll but he's right - the importance of English in the EU will diminish.

Not sure why his nationality or the residence of a fellow poster matters though.

And it's the "having a bit of a troll" that is unnecessary, especially in light of recent events.
The repetitive "having a bit of a troll" especially.

Hence the similarity.


Is Jaques Santer a fellow poster then?

wotsthat

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

And it's the "having a bit of a troll" that is unnecessary, especially in light of recent events.
The repetitive "having a bit of a troll" especially.

Hence the similarity.

Don't you find it ironic that you see him having a dig ias unnecessary whilst you're keen to point out he's a foreigner and a Brit living abroad is a traitor?

Silly nationalism makes people's skin paper thin and some didn't have much to spare to start with.

Yah_Boo_Sux

wotsthat wrote: »

Don't you find it ironically that you see him having a dig ias unnecessary whilst you're keen to point out he's a foreigner and a Brit living abroad is a traitor?

Silly nationalism makes people's skin paper thin and some didn't have much to spare anyway.

No because the questionable morals are proven, beyond the doubt of those that truly understand what morals actually are certainly.
It has little to do with nationalism and more to do with behaviour.
As multiple posts in these forums have shown.
For both.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

wotsthat wrote: »

Don't you find it ironic that you see him having a dig ias unnecessary whilst you're keen to point out he's a foreigner and a Brit living abroad is a traitor?

Silly nationalism makes people's skin paper thin and some didn't have much to spare to start with.

So you think it okay to lie and cheat?
Well I don't.
It is reprehensible behaviour TBH, no matter how you view it.

Oh and in the case of Junckers those lies and the cheating have been proven.
I will not revisit if you decide to pursue that route - it is well-documented.


"A Brit living abroad"?
I don't know what you mean.
I refer to Jaques Santer.
Another Luxembourger, another EU president - forced to resign in 1999 with his entire commission.

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

He's having a bit of a troll but he's right - the importance of English in the EU will diminish.

I don't see this at all in the modern world. Check out YouTube comments for example. Influential culture and music the world over is largely in English. Russians rap in English. Much international trade contract law is in English and under English law.


Go to a bar in the middle of a tiny town in the Philippines and you see so many things English, you don't see German rappers on the screens, you see British artists, British footie, British motor racing.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

Conrad wrote: »

I don't see this at all in the modern world. Check out YouTube comments for example. Influential culture and music the world over is largely in English. Russians rap in English. Much international trade contract law is in English and under English law.


Go to a bar in the middle of a tiny town in the Philippines and you see so many things English, you don't see German rappers on the screens, you see British artists, British footie, British motor racing.

I think he means that the EU will withdraw into itself more and use (say) French internally.
How they plan to relate this to expanding trade across a largely English-speaking world is another matter entirely.