If we vote for Brexit what happens

Enterprise_1701C

mayonnaise wrote: »

I usually buy goods based on factors like quality and price... it's weird, I know...

Given the choice I buy British everytime, and prefer to buy local produce if I can, at the very least English.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Remind me when we actually voted for her and her Governments policies in an election in the UK? Are the electorate no longer allowed any voice to express their opinion.

That's just it - the eu dont like the idea of countries being run by their own people, they want to run all the countries as one, every country in the eu at the wrong time will be swallowed whole. The euro is the weapon of choice, destroy the economies of the countries within the eu and it makes it very difficult for them to leave and they have to obey the rules laid down by the [STRIKE]germans[/STRIKE] eu masters.

I cant recall who it was, but one of the eu proletariat actually said that democracy should not be allowed when the UK voted OUT. That sets the stage for how the eu intend to operate if they actually survive.

Mortgagefreeman

mayonnaise wrote: »

I usually buy goods based on factors like quality and price... it's weird, I know...

Well obviously you prefer the French or Spain.

One of the most common places named as the origin of mayonnaise is the town of Mah!n in Menorca, Spain, where it was then taken to France after Armand de Vignerot du Plessis's victory over the British at the city's port in 1756.

Now I can understand why you're so anti British.

BobQ

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

The Telegraph suggests that the UK "must" contribute towards the EU until 2020 to get a favourable deal.
That's just one year after Brexit, surely?

Also:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/25/britain-must-contribute-eu-budget-2020-secure-favourable-brexit/

Oh well we shall just have to delay the distribution of this £350m a week to the NHS........

Seriously, it seems a small price to pay to have a smooth exit.

BobQ

cogito wrote: »

The EU want to relocate the European Medicines Agency away from the UK. today we learn that the EMA has a lease on its offices in Canary Wharf up to 2039 and there is no break clause. If they leave, it will cost them £347m. Shame.

Shame? Does this not count as a reason why the EU want us to honour our obligations? So in effect we may end up paying for it.

Clearly the UK Government could sublet the building for some of those extra staff it will need to cover the functions we delegated to the EU. Such as licencing medicines produced in the EU for sale in the UK?

cogito

BobQ wrote: »

Shame? Does this not count as a reason why the EU want us to honour our obligations? So in effect we may end up paying for it.

Clearly the UK Government could sublet the building for some of those extra staff it will need to cover the functions we delegated to the EU. Such as licencing medicines produced in the EU for sale in the UK?

The UK government doesn't own the building. It's a conventional landlord/tenant relationship.

BobQ

cogito wrote: »

The UK government doesn't own the building. It's a conventional landlord/tenant relationship.

I understand that but this lease was taken out by the EU as a collective decision of 28 nations in 2011, at a time when Brexit was but a gleam in Nigel Farage's eye. It was done against a collectively agreed policy of the EU that agencies would be distributed in locations throughout the EU based on population. If at the time the EU had said we are not putting any agencies in the UK in case years from now the UK decides to leave there would have been an outcry.

http://www.ema.europa.eu/ema/index.jsp?curl=pages/news_and_events/news/2011/08/news_detail_001323.jsp&mid=WC0b01ac058004d5c1

So the vote for Brexit has caused the need for the agency to close and we were part to the decision.

Say UK had voted remain and France had chosen to leave last year would we think it fair that we had to pay our share of relocating the European Railways Agency?

Its a bogus figure anyway unless the EU is unable to find a new occupant for the space.

kabayiri

cogito wrote: »

The UK government doesn't own the building. It's a conventional landlord/tenant relationship.

Presumably the negotiators who were behind the signing of the long lease deal were happy to take onboard the risks in return for a reduced rent.

This is just an EU / landlord issue as you say. They could use the space as they see fit, or agree some re-letting arrangement.

It's a non issue really.

CKhalvashi

kabayiri wrote: »

Presumably the negotiators who were behind the signing of the long lease deal were happy to take onboard the risks in return for a reduced rent.

This is just an EU / landlord issue as you say. They could use the space as they see fit, or agree some re-letting arrangement.

It's a non issue really.

Perhaps it should be leased to EU businesses by the desk/room to keep some form of operations in the UK.

They prosper, we prosper was what someone said, and it will at least keep some investment coming in, while providing jobs for British workers in London.

Just a thought

Thrugelmir

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Perhaps it should be leased to EU businesses by the desk/room to keep some form of operations in the UK.

Converting an existing building is an expensive proposition. Until there's a break clause. Landlord can simply sit back and collect the rent. My guess is that the building is owned by overseas investors.

CKhalvashi

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Converting an existing building is an expensive proposition. Until there's a break clause. Landlord can simply sit back and collect the rent. My guess is that the building is owned by overseas investors.

However leaving it 'as is' and allowing it to be used as a registered office with desk rental is a cheap proposition, and would hopefully get the majority of the rent paid (and actually, probably even a profit) for the next 20 years, whilst providing a business hub for those that want it.

Such arrangements are increasingly common in business, and I'm trying to look at what's sensible, rather than what will actually happen here.

There's no reason why a 'sales office' couldn't be opened up with just 1 member of local staff for the majority of small businesses wanting to maintain a UK presence from the EU. Helps both sides prosper IMO.