If we vote for Brexit what happens

Tromking

Any democracy that takes an occasional steer from the 'proletariat' is a healthy democracy in my view.
As a fully paid up member of the great unwashed this whole Brexit process has been a joy to behold. Its been good that the self proclaimed intellectual is sometimes nudged into thinking about the bigger picture and about how others perceive things.

wotsthat

LHW99 wrote: »

For those people in the constituency who preferred the Plaid Cymru manifesto to Labour's or the Tories' it would have been hobson's choice.

Not really. Don't vote for idiots - it only encourages them.

mrginge

BobQ wrote: »

Did Moby say anything like this? I think not.

In a democracy being thick or gullible does not disqualify you from voting o make your opinion any less valid. But it may well influence the results.

Does being thick or gullible influence the result to a greater, lesser or equal extent than being black, gay, called Steve, living in Kent, having three kids ...etc.

If we accept the analysis that thickos predominantly voted to leave , then does it mean -
the result was wrong and we should amend it?
we should stop thick people from voting?
there are just more thick people or more of them went out and voted?
The factors being debated affected thickos more than clever people?


Surely all you clever people out there can see that it's no good just trotting out a statistic without using it to draw some conclusions...

vivatifosi

I really dislike the thick and gullible labels. Over 50% of the population is of average intelligence, hence it being average. Only a relatively small number have cognitive impairment. Those who have severe cognitive impairment will often not register to vote:
https://blogs.canterbury.ac.uk/discursive/cognitive-impairment-and-voting-the-capacity-to-be-heard/

Labelling people in a disparaging manner is just not helpful.

wotsthat

mrginge wrote: »

Does being thick or gullible influence the result to a greater, lesser or equal extent than being black, gay, called Steve, living in Kent, having three kids ...etc.

If we accept the analysis that thickos predominantly voted to leave , then does it mean -
the result was wrong and we should amend it?
we should stop thick people from voting?
there are just more thick people or more of them went out and voted?
The factors being debated affected thickos more than clever people?

Surely all you clever people out there can see that it's no good just trotting out a statistic without using it to draw some conclusions...

I don't really want thickos making decisions on my behalf. I doubt you do either but I don't know what we can realistically do about it.

Tromking

wotsthat wrote: »

I don't really want thickos making decisions on my behalf. I doubt you do either but I don't know what we can realistically do about it.

Have you considered dictatorship as an option?

wotsthat

Tromking wrote: »

Have you considered dictatorship as an option?

No but I don't think that 11/04/2107 was the day we arrived at the perfect democracy so there's scope for improvement.

Not that eligibility to vote based on intelligence is where I'd start.

Tromking

wotsthat wrote: »

No but I don't think that 11/04/2107 was the day we arrived at the perfect democracy so there's scope for improvement.

Not that eligibility to vote based on intelligence is where I'd start.

I don't think your intelligent enough to decide who's intelligent enough to vote anyway.

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

I don't really want thickos making decisions on my behalf. I doubt you do either but I don't know what we can realistically do about it.

Well if I remember correctly, you helped vote in a government that had clearly set that out as a manifesto promise.

You did read the manifesto didn't you?
Just like all the other intelligent people did at the last GE?

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

I don't really want thickos making decisions on my behalf. I doubt you do either but I don't know what we can realistically do about it.

By the same token I resent utterly naïve 'progressive' types having input that leads to all manner of downside outcomes, particularly that results in jobs losses or employers forced to abandon permanent employment contracts.


Look at the appalling delivery in Scotland in terms of poor growth and high dependency. A prime example of the 'unforeseen' damage done by overly keen 'progressives', who's pompous grandstanding ultimately results in job losses, or permanent contract jobs disappearing thanks to all the regulation and tick0boxing generated by lofty 'progressives'.


Watching the Lords, many are very out of touch, but well intended. For example they wont be aware struggling employers are having to cope with auto-enrolment and other new changes, yet there they were last night on TV debating 'progressive' new policy ideas.




They may be educated, but plenty are naïve and not properly connected to reality, and do not understand the damage they do.


SUMMARY

These disconnected buffoons sometimes need reigning - in, and the referendum decision was a wake-up call