If we vote for Brexit what happens

wotsthat

mrginge wrote: »

Well if I remember correctly, you helped vote in a government that had clearly set that out as a manifesto promise.

That's true. Although I was annoyed by the Tories stupid European pantomime I was far more concerned about the possibility of Prime Minister Miliband.

Not that it mattered much - my constituency has delivered a Labour MP since the war so don't expect my vote to help prevent Corbyn getting into No. 10.

mrginge wrote: »

You did read the manifesto didn't you?
Just like all the other intelligent people did at the last GE?

I usually read them at the manifesto meet-up. It's where everyone who actually reads manifestos meet and go through them together. You know the Albert Hall? Well there's a pub around the corner and we can usually fit in the snug.

wotsthat

Conrad wrote: »

Watching the Lords, many are very out of touch, but well intended. For example they wont be aware struggling employers are having to cope with auto-enrolment and other new changes, yet there they were last night on TV debating 'progressive' new policy ideas.

LOL. Just got to your staging date have you?

mayonnaise

Good news for smart remainers.

Highly skilled British people could work in the EU after Brexit under expanded visa scheme
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/vhighly-skilled-british-people-could-work-in-the-eu-after-brexit-under-expanded-visa-scheme-claims-a7677366.html

"Highly skilled"

Brexiters need not apply

mrginge

wotsthat wrote: »

That's true. Although I was annoyed by the Tories stupid European pantomime I was far more concerned about the possibility of Prime Minister Miliband.

Not that it mattered much - my constituency has delivered a Labour MP since the war so don't expect my vote to help prevent Corbyn getting into No. 10.

I doubt you need to worry about that tbh.

I usually read them at the manifesto meet-up. It's where everyone who actually reads manifestos meet and go through them together. You know the Albert Hall? Well there's a pub around the corner and we can usually fit in the snug.

Yes. My local one was held in my downstairs toilet. Fortunately this means I now have the lofty position of being able to sneer at 99.9% of the electorate.

davomcdave

From a broker note. Not my opinion although I have paraphrased:

1. Expected inflation is at a 10 year high [Davo's note: expected inflation can be measured using by comparing regular bond yields against index linked bond yields]
2. REITs (Real Estate Investment Trusts) are trading at a 25% discount to the value of the buildings in the REIT [Davo's note: if you are bullish Brexit this is a brilliant investment as you are getting 33% free money, if you believe the market is pricing correctly the gap reflects the difference between liquid REITs and illiquid commercial property]

The broker reckons the best trade is long GBP and the worst is London commercial property due to some companies leaving London as they want an EU base not a UK one and London no longer fits the bill.

Not my opinion, I just thought people would be interested in someone's informed point of view.

davomcdave

http://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/quarter-of-a-million-british-pets-face-jail-in-europe-if-brexit-talks-fail/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=170410&utm_campaign=moneystuff

Quarter of a million British pets face ‘jail’ in Europe if Brexit talks fail

This “hardest of Brexits” could, according to the European Commission’s chief negotiator Michel Barnier, lead to the reintroduction of customs controls, long queues at Dover, supply shortages and air traffic disruption.

But it could also lead to the UK being unceremoniously dumped from the EU’s pet passport scheme, which allows for the free movement of dogs, cats and ferrets across borders.

Mortgagefreeman

mayonnaise wrote: »

Good news for smart remainers.

Highly skilled British people could work in the EU after Brexit under expanded visa scheme
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/vhighly-skilled-british-people-could-work-in-the-eu-after-brexit-under-expanded-visa-scheme-claims-a7677366.html

The report adds: “Current EU arrangements for highly skilled work permits are either incomplete or characterised by differing arrangements across states. However the EU aims to make the system more uniform and increase the number of Blue Cards issued by lowering salary thresholds, among other changes.

Highly skilled on lower salaries. I bet they'll even have to bring their own Pot noodles. :rotfl:

Conrad

davomcdave wrote: »

The broker reckons the best trade is long GBP and the worst is London commercial property due to some companies leaving London as they want an EU base not a UK one and London no longer fits the bill.

Not my opinion, I just thought people would be interested in someone's informed point of view.

Don't know about you guys but in the towns where I work and near where I live, almost every available office block is being converted into residential, never seen anything like it. Even the large Council offices I found out are now being converted.


Many opportunities will flow from Brexit and so I can see London commercial being a good investment, especially against this background of ever constrained availability.


Sure a small proportion of staff in some firms such as Lloyds will move to a sub-office, but if you look back well before the referendum I was saying this would be the way some companies retained access

davomcdave

Conrad wrote: »

Don't know about you guys but in the towns where I work and near where I live, almost every available office block is being converted into residential, never seen anything like it. Even the large Council offices I found out are now being converted.


Many opportunities will flow from Brexit and so I can see London commercial being a good investment, especially against this background of ever constrained availability.


Sure a small proportion of staff in some firms such as Lloyds will move to a sub-office, but if you look back well before the referendum I was saying this would be the way some companies retained access

In The City there are pretty strictly observed rules against turning offices into housing.

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034 The level of educational attainment was the most significant factor:- 'The data confirms previous indications that local results were strongly associated with the educational attainment of voters - populations with lower qualifications were significantly more likely to vote Leave. (The data for this analysis comes from one in nine wards) The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census.' I believe those less well educated are more likely to believe the relevance of simplistic arguments on 'immigration numbers' or 'loss of sovereignty', 'taking back control' etc. Trite, simplistic arguments won the day against the more amorphous, internationalist, technocratic views of the remainers.

I'm finding it hard to believe that you are any sort of leftie.

If you are on the side of the rich "educated" elites and the other side are the working classes - you are on the wrong side.