If we vote for Brexit what happens

kabayiri

setmefree2 wrote: »

https://www.ft.com/content/2e0eb278-4372-11e6-b22f-79eb4891c97d

I deal with people in India a lot, and have done for over 20 years now.

It is still challenging...

But it is also amazing just how far they have come.

Some of the American meditech companies see India as a great opportunity to trial cutting edge medical developments. They have little baggage compared to USA/UK with our medicaid/NHS established views.

kabayiri

Arklight wrote: »

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All that will happen if we stop low wage immigration is that the jobs will go, and pre-bagged salad will go back to being a luxury that rich people have.

There would be a lobby group a mile long outside No 10 demanding the same thing : the ability to import cheap labour from somewhere else.

Basic unskilled labour is not unique to the EU. We don't have a monopoly on such resource.

Conrad

So Remainers told us a deal would not be possible as it would encourage other nations to leave, that we would be punished;


EU chief Jean Claude Juncker warns 'everybody will lose' if Brussels and UK don't secure a Brexit deal

Chief negotiator Michel Barnier added EU wants success with, and 'not against', the United Kingdom

The President of the European Commission said a failure to reach an agreement would be the “worst possible outcome” for people on both sides of the Channel.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-jean-claude-juncker-no-brexit-deal-warn-everybody-lose-brussels-uk-european-commision-a7667411.html

Tammykitty

davomcdave wrote: »

Similarly, why the hell would any Brit want to pick strawberries in the rain at 4am? It's horrible, backbreaking work. Yeah it's fun with the kids for 30 minutes at the local pick your own just before lunch but really? Who here has even done a day's work picking fruit let alone relied on it to pay the bills? I sure as heck haven't and nor do I plan to. Forget that.

StevieJ wrote: »

In the old days, as a kid, I used to pick Potatoes and Beetroot for extra pocket money, joined by married women without a job. Never saw an adult male bending their backs :-)

I have picked potatoes on many weekends and during holidays as a child and student (10-20 years ago) and there was many a grown man doing so - and they had been there all week.


I also picked strawberries for a month in Denmark after uni- and I wouldn't exactly describe it as back breaking work (We did 6am starts, and it was a very wet summer in Denmark that year!)


It's not easy work, but it's doable (Even for me, that has scoliosis) - I was taking pain killers every day, but we were also staying in a tent, so between the 2, my back was a bit uncomfortable, but I survived and actually enjoyed the experience - but I do hate strawberries now!

setmefree2

UK services sector growth hits three-month high, as car sales smash records - business live

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2017/apr/05/service-sector-uk-growth-eurozone-car-sales-xi-business-live

setmefree2

Tammykitty wrote: »

I have picked potatoes on many weekends and during holidays as a child and student (10-20 years ago) and there was many a grown man doing so - and they had been there all week.


I also picked strawberries for a month in Denmark after uni- and I wouldn't exactly describe it as back breaking work (We did 6am starts, and it was a very wet summer in Denmark that year!)


It's not easy work, but it's doable (Even for me, that has scoliosis) - I was taking pain killers every day, but we were also staying in a tent, so between the 2, my back was a bit uncomfortable, but I survived and actually enjoyed the experience - but I do hate strawberries now!

Also much talk about bringing back Saturday jobs

Help us fix Brexit labour shortage with Saturday jobs, say employers

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/apr/01/saturday-jobs-brexit-labour-shortage-young-people

Arklight

setmefree2 wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2017/apr/05/service-sector-uk-growth-eurozone-car-sales-xi-business-live

There is quite a lot more in there too.

10:31
UK service sector: What the experts say
Jeremy Cook, chief economist at the international payments company, World First, fears that the UK economy is entering choppier water.
Here’s his take on today’s service sector report:

“While the headline index number may have rebounded from a 5 month low in February, there is little to be enamoured with in this reading of the UK’s most important sector; consumers are under pressure, services sector companies that cater to them are weaker and margins are likely being pressured further.
Average prices are at the highest level in 8.5 years and whilst some consumer resilience is allowing some of this to be passed on in higher prices on the shelves we have to think that that consumer resilience will give way before the business need to keep prices raised does. In the short term, this means a turning of the screw for the man in the street and a poor outlook for High St profits. This sector makes up the majority of the UK economy and the prognosis is poor.”

Arklight

kabayiri wrote: »

There would be a lobby group a mile long outside No 10 demanding the same thing : the ability to import cheap labour from somewhere else.

Basic unskilled labour is not unique to the EU. We don't have a monopoly on such resource.

That's how we ended up with free movement in the EU in the first place.

Conrad

Arklight wrote: »

There is quite a lot more in there too.

Look back over the past 5 years - there's always an expert warning consumers are about to go into hibernation mode, always. During the Xmas shopping period many of them said consumers weren't spending - yet plebs like me kept pointing out this was nonsense and they would indeed 'suddenly' get their wallets out.


We still have historically low inflation, low interest rates, low unemployment, there is no reason at all things will slow - quote me on this as you once more see nonsense gloomers predictions turning out wrong.


Go back over last 9 months news and you see many examples of reports consumers had stopped spending.

setmefree2

Interesting.

Deutsche Post DHL Chief: Brexit Good For Britain

Deutsche Post DHL Chief Executive Frank Appel is one of the very few business leaders who appears unfazed by Brexit.

“Great Britain will most likely pursue a liberal economic policy,” he said in an interview with Handelsblatt. “Prime Minister Theresa May has announced tax cuts and a liberalization of the labor market in order to increase the country’s competitiveness.”

Mr. Appel, for one, is not worried. “One thing is certain: protectionism has never made a country successful,” he said.

He is optimistic that the falling pound will fire up Britain’s economy and he is sanguine about U.S. President Donald Trump’s trade policies.

https://global.handelsblatt.com/companies-markets/deutsche-post-protectionisms-silver-lining-742383